Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:57 pm
ANYWAY.
BACK TO THE TOPIC.
For this of you that’d enjoy a masterful takedown of Brian Hales’ nonsense I highly recommend reading this from Grindael:
https://mormonitemusings.wordpress.com/ ... my-part-3/
He demonstrates how disingenuous Hales is, and artfully points out where Hales lies about Runnells, omits relevant information, and makes assertions up out of whole cloth. Mopologists are garbage.
- Doc
A tribute to Grindael
-
- God
- Posts: 2456
- Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:46 am
Re: A tribute to Grindael
And.......
-
- God
- Posts: 2456
- Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:46 am
Re: A tribute to Grindael

Lem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:21 pmAnd.......Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:57 pm
ANYWAY.
BACK TO THE TOPIC.
For this of you that’d enjoy a masterful takedown of Brian Hales’ nonsense I highly recommend reading this from Grindael:
https://mormonitemusings.wordpress.com/ ... my-part-3/
He demonstrates how disingenuous Hales is, and artfully points out where Hales lies about Runnells, omits relevant information, and makes assertions up out of whole cloth. Mopologists are garbage.
- Doc
- Jersey Girl
- God
- Posts: 8238
- Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:51 am
- Location: In my head
Re: A tribute to Grindael
Quote me and provide a link.
LIGHT HAS A NAME
We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
Slava Ukraini!
We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
Slava Ukraini!
- Jersey Girl
- God
- Posts: 8238
- Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:51 am
- Location: In my head
Re: A tribute to Grindael
Let's try that again.
LIGHT HAS A NAME
We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
Slava Ukraini!
We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
Slava Ukraini!
-
- God
- Posts: 2259
- Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:38 pm
Re: A tribute to Grindael
What a tribute! Can we get this baby pinned at the top of the terrestrial forum?
It'll at least be a reminder to avoid the paradise forum like the plague.
It'll at least be a reminder to avoid the paradise forum like the plague.
“Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
- Kishkumen
- God
- Posts: 8979
- Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:37 pm
- Location: Cassius University
- Contact:
Re: A tribute to Grindael
dastardly stem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:30 pmWhat a tribute! Can we get this baby pinned at the top of the terrestrial forum?
It'll at least be a reminder to avoid the paradise forum like the plague.


Word.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
-
- God
- Posts: 2456
- Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:46 am
Re: A tribute to Grindael
dastardly stem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:30 pmWhat a tribute! Can we get this baby pinned at the top of the terrestrial forum?
It'll at least be a reminder to avoid the paradise forum like the plague.

Also:
Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:16 pmHere are the creative works authored by grin that I transferred to the new archives. While you all were appreciating his Mormon related work, I was drinking in his lyricism. I needed to transfer the work quickly in case the old board became too corrupted to locate them so I transferred as top priority. Each transferred thread contains grin's avatar and all of his imagery and ends with my favorite image of grindael. There's a fourth thread that remains unfinished but only because I needed permission from someone else about a certain issue which took a while for me to get and then, I guess, the pandemic took my attention.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9&start=50
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8
I'll end this post the way I ended all of the above transfers.
"The Road Ahead" ~ Johnny Stephenson
Last edited by Lem on Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- God
- Posts: 2456
- Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:46 am
Re: A tribute to Grindael
Too bad, you're missing out...
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:39 pmHere was another fine tribute to Grindael:
viewtopic.php?t=129
Kishkumen » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:07 am
Here was another fine soul. A person of great creativity, talent, passion, and intelligence: grindael. We were fortunate to have him on our board. I also enjoyed following his contributions to the Mormon Historians Facebook group. Sometimes I argued with him pretty heatedly, but I knew his heart was in the right place. His research was so important for our understanding of Mormon polygamy. Things that other scholars missed, grindael would put together. I wish he had been able to publish his work formally. As it is, much of his stuff is in danger of being lost.
We miss you, brother. You were among the best of us, and now you are gone. God speed, if you are out there.
- Doc
-
- God
- Posts: 7141
- Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:29 am
Re: A tribute to Grindael
Fair enough. It's true that probably no one in Terrestrial has the time to research if you or Lem are correct here.ceeboo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:49 pmHey again DD
First - Thanks for showing an interest in this and taking the time to engage some of the people involved - I appreciate that. I can only imagine how difficult it must be to try maintain a fair and level mind, when replying, with only a mere sample of this that has been jammed down your throat (this thread showing up on this forum). Truth be told, it would cost you way too much of your time to be in a position to accurately and confidently address the issue that lie at the center of why this thread arrived here.
Having said that, I wanted to let you know , for what it's worth, that your above comment is patently inaccurate. Like not just in the wrong zip code kind of inaccurate, you're in the wrong Country. This is way bigger than not learning how to accept that someone on the internet disagrees with someone.
Anyway, I sincerely do appreciate you showing an interest and I fully recognize the unfair position you have been put in.
Perhaps at some point Shades will step in and appoint some moderators, perhaps not. If he does I just hope they are unbiased and don't have a dog in this fight.