Should we bring back a moderator team?

[canpakes]

I'm surprised we do not have even more trolls activated by Musket Fire.

I’ll bet that most of the ‘no’ votes in this poll are from new accounts created in the last week or so. ; )

[ceeboo]

What you focus on is your prerogative

Thanks! I hope you have considered that what ever it is that you focus on is a prerogative too - yours.

[Gadianton]

Bring ZLMB back! Those were the days…

(it's the real MG)

Thanks MG, as I was a moderator at Z who was well-liked by the other moderator's at Z, I thank you for your confidence as I temporarily try to hold things together while Shades is going through the difficulties that he's mentioned on the board.

People who respect Shades and believe in shades could do him a service by setting the example, independent of what other posters are doing.

that seem to thrive and find some degree of fulfillment in rolling in the mud, so to speak

Yes, many of us do, myself included; as did many at Z. You seemed to enjoy a good go at Grindael before he passed. Grindael was a man who clearly had some deep personal struggles. I'll bet that felt really satisfying.

In other news:

- I am reviewing all reported violations for terrestrial for now and it's pretty light; thanks everyone. Please do report issues as you see them though.
- My long-winded posts: yes, trolling from what I can tell is fine within Shades' vision and board culture, that was directed to everybody. There are various definitions of "trolling" of course: there is 'baiting' type trolling as EA did to me, where he wasn't violating any rules and his posts were substantive, and he on-purpose provoked me into bad behavior -- I have to own that. Some people think of trolling as serious disruptions to the board; constant spam; extreme direct personal attacks; rarely anything but drama and does all this at high volumes; That kind of trolling does become a different story, but still want to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Defund the Police is probably seen as a "troll" at Sic et Non because his views are contrarian to the status quo there. I love that guy. But his posts do have substance along with any jabs, and he doesn't post a hundred times on every thread. I'd say for critics: Look at the critics posting at Sic et Non, and if you're a fan, expect that the same level of contrarian posting should be protected here, and then a little more just to be safe.

[ceeboo]

- My long-winded posts: yes, trolling from what I can tell is fine within Shades' vision and board culture, that was directed to everybody.

Lem, You do have an option to do the right thing here. You don't even have to go as far as apologizing to anyone, you can simply say you had a misunderstanding or that you misread something. No biggie - I have many of my own.

Plus, I will even let you know what my response would be before you take such a high risk. I would tell you "No worries, I've done it too. All is well."

But, you are the one who has to make the first move.

[canpakes]

What you focus on is your prerogative

Thanks! I hope you have considered that what ever it is that you focus on is a prerogative too - yours.

Absolutely true. But for this case, the numbers are very heavily on my side.

[MG 2.0]

- My long-winded posts: yes, trolling from what I can tell is fine within Shades' vision and board culture, that was directed to everybody.

Lem, You do have an option to do the right thing here. You don't even have to go as far as apologizing to anyone, you can simply say you had a misunderstanding or that you misread something. No biggie - I have many of my own.

Plus, I will even let you know what my response would be before you take such a high risk. I would tell you "No worries, I've done it too. All is well."

But, you are the one who has to make the first move.

I haven’t read through this whole thread. But without having done so, may I say that I’m not surprised ‘Lem’, as she is being referred to, is somehow involved in a board ruckus. I can’t count the number of times Lemming trolled me throughout one thread or another either misquoting me out of context or creating mountains out of molehills. My guess is that she, and others, are still at it. Doesn’t it get old folks?

Or maybe I need to be corrected, there’s nothing to see here. But like I said, I haven’t read through this complete thread and I don’t know what this latest kurfluffle is all about. I am surprised to see ceeboo in the middle of it though.

What gives?

And yeah, it’s me. I haven’t been around these parts for a while. I wasn’t able to get in with what I thought was my password. I didn’t get a response when I asked for help, so I simply created a new 2.0 account.

I’m sure I missed a lot while taking another hiatus. Or not. Civility apparently is still being held hostage.

Regards,
MG

[Dr Moore]

I haven’t read through this whole thread. But without having done so, may I say that I’m not surprised ‘Lem’, as she is being referred to, is somehow involved in a board ruckus. I can’t count the number of times Lemming trolled me throughout one thread or another either misquoting me out of context or creating mountains out of molehills. My guess is that she, and others, are still at it. Doesn’t it get old folks?

Typical MG. Doesn't read what people say. Lobs generic insults at the board. Justifies it with self-righteous indignation. "Doesn't it get old" indeed.

[MG 2.0]

You seemed to enjoy a good go at Grindael before he passed.

We did go back and forth. I was sad to hear of his struggles and his passing. He believed in what he was doing.

Regards,
MG

[Moksha]

Civility apparently is still being held hostage.

So youse guys better pay up or else, see?

(my best Jimmy Cagney impression)

[Lem]

Lem, You do have an option to do the right thing here. You don't even have to go as far as apologizing to anyone, you can simply say you had a misunderstanding or that you misread something. No biggie - I have many of my own.

Plus, I will even let you know what my response would be before you take such a high risk. I would tell you "No worries, I've done it too. All is well."

But, you are the one who has to make the first move.

as usual, I have no clue what this even means or why you mentioned my name, but it's still pretty entertaining to read, and at least it has no sexist content.

you go, ceeboo, you be you!!