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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:32 pm
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Sorry, lock=a certainty of approval.
Thanks. I wasn't sure which way you thought it was going to go because God knows these days nothing is certain or even logical.
Understood. Sorry for putting more strain on that ticker of yours.
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Here's our state information as it stands right now. Bold emphasis mine.
Video: Polis Outlines Colorado’s Coronavirus Vaccine Distribution Plan
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By Colorado Public Radio Staff
December 9, 2020


"This is the really the gateway to the end of the pandemic, to return to normalcy, so let's double down in the next few weeks and months," he said

Colorado's finalizing orders for about 142,000 doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, but that's only enough to get started. When they arrive the immunizations will be limited to the most exposed health workers and people in long-term care facilities.

This spring, the state will ramp up vaccinations for people with high-exposure jobs and certain medical conditions. But the general public may have to wait until next summer.

"We know that in the early weeks and months of supply distribution that supplies will be limited," said incident commander Scott Bookman. "This has been a historic effort to create this vaccine in a record period of time. And while we're going to get there, it is going to take many months to get this out to the general public."

Polis continues to report being asymptomatic after he and his partner, first gentleman Marlon Reis, tested positive for the coronavirus. Reis was discharged from the hospital Tuesday after he was admitted with shortness of breath on Sunday.

Also on Tuesday, Colorado conducted a test run of plans to distribute the first coronavirus vaccines in the state. The first doses are expected to arrive next week.
https://www.cpr.org/2020/12/09/watch-vi ... update-48/

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Res Ipsa wrote:
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Just a reminder. The US FDA panel is in an all day meeting regarding Pfizer vax approval. Meeting adjourns at 6 p.m. EST.

Hoping/praying for approval over here.
Never hurts to pray, but I think this one's a lock.
Done deal. Recommending EUA for the Pfizer vaccine. Or as the smart man said, it was indeed a lock. :-)
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Great article on our transition into “vaccine purgatory.” https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... ry/617371/

It explains one important question still to be answered: can vaccinated people still spread the virus asymptomatically? Until we know that, receiving a vaccination should not mean abandoning masks, social distancing, hand washing, etc.
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Apparently Buddy boy is now threatening Stephen Hann to force the arm of the FDA to approval the Pfizer vaccine toot sweet.

Oh yeah, sure. If injecting bleach were on the table, he could be threatening for approval and nationwide forced administration on that, too. I mean, yeah, that'd be like a Christmas Miracle courtesy of the Chosen One. :roll:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics ... index.html
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Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 pm
Apparently Buddy boy is now threatening Stephen Hann to force the arm of the FDA to approval the Pfizer vaccine toot sweet.

Oh yeah, sure. If injecting bleach were on the table, he could be threatening for approval and nationwide forced administration on that, too. I mean, yeah, that'd be like a Christmas Miracle courtesy of the Chosen One. :roll:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics ... index.html
Yeah, he's sat on his ass for months, letting thousands of die because they believed the BS he spouted, but if that vaccine approval isn't moved up by one day, the head of the FDA is fired. :roll:
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:08 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 pm
Apparently Buddy boy is now threatening Stephen Hann to force the arm of the FDA to approval the Pfizer vaccine toot sweet.

Oh yeah, sure. If injecting bleach were on the table, he could be threatening for approval and nationwide forced administration on that, too. I mean, yeah, that'd be like a Christmas Miracle courtesy of the Chosen One. :roll:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics ... index.html
Yeah, he's sat on his ass for months, letting thousands of die because they believed the BS he spouted, but if that vaccine approval isn't moved up by one day, the head of the FDA is fired. :roll:
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I love how he thinks by acting like he cares about the vaccine his base will convince themselves that he didn't say the or do the following:
Trump has been saying the pandemic has been totally under control since January, and said it would just "go away" in February.

He reiterated this in March as the virus surged, and insisted we had "perfect" tests that anyone could get after reports of faulty tests. He said he wanted pandemic-related shutdowns to end by Easter so churches could be "packed" while claiming Hydroxychloroquine would be a miracle cure for COVID-19.

In April he continued to promote Hydroxychloroquine without evidence and suggested we could inject disinfectants or use UVC light inside the body to kill the virus, and right up through May Trump was discouraging the use of masks and refused to require them anywhere, with him and Pence famously flouting requirements at hospitals and factories. Trump also claimed he was taking Hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic against the disease. At this point they were even planning to dismantle their own COVID-19 task force.

In June they were still insisting it was under control while fighting the FDA's revocation of authorizations for Hydroxychloroquine, and denying that there was a second surge happening. They instead blamed the high infection statistics on there being more testing, and Trump suggested slowing down testing to improve the stats, noting he does not joke.

Rolling into July he still insisted he had things under control, claiming they had done an incredible job, as the White House nuked a trove of data previously available through the CDC while Trump was still hyping Hydroxychloroquine and his son was temporarily suspended from Twitter for continuing to spread disinformation about it.

Even in August, Trump claimed COVID-19 was totally under control, and the ~150k dead with a simple "it is what it is,", and reiterated that the virus would go away all on its own. He finally encouraged the wearing of masks, but ignored all guidelines during his nomination acceptance speech at the Republican Convention.

In September Trump was saying that COVID-19 hurt "virtually nobody", and openly disputed the CDC's own claims about the effectiveness of masks.

In October Trump got COVID-19, and while still undergoing treatment, went on a quick spin around the hospital to wave to his supporters outside. He was discharged to the White House after only three days, posing for photo-ops without a mask. At this point White House officials finally concede that "we're not going to control the pandemic.". This would be the last time the COVID-19 task force would formally meet.

Since then Trump has pretty much avoided any and all public appearances except to complain about the election. November marked the point where a quarter of a million Americans had died of COVID-19. There are now more people dying each day of COVID-19 than died in the terrorist attacks on 9/11/2001 or in the Invasion of Normandy.
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Done. Deal. The article is good and informative.

FDA issues emergency use authorization for Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/health/c ... index.html

Bet Big Guy will take credit for it, too.
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Here is the esteemed Andrew Cuomo on the Covid vaccine before the election

[00:47:52]
I'm not that confident, but my opinion doesn't matter. I don't believe the American people are that confident. You're going to say to the American people, now, here's a vaccine. It was new. It was done quickly. But trust this federal administration in their health administration that it's safe and we're not one hundred percent sure of the consequences. I think it's going to be a very skeptical American public about taking the vaccine, and it should be they should be skeptical about the vaccine.

Here is Andrew Cuomo on the vaccine after the election

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First we're going to have to have a real public education campaign to battle the skepticism. Just think of the math on this. You have to get the 75 percent to 85 percent of the overall population vaccinated for the vaccine to be effective, 75 to 85 percent, 50 percent of the population says right now they don't want to take the vaccine. They don't trust the approval process. They're worried about vaccines in general, but 50 percent are now saying they don't want to take the vaccine.

[00:49:15]
You cannot get to 75 percent if 50 percent don't take it.

https://www.happyscribe.com/public/the- ... 3e8b9d094b
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