Church membership numbers not good.

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:Earthly sanctuaries that enable the work of the Lord to go on inside of sacred spaces.

That work is the work of the eternities. To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

Hope this helps.

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Chap wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:17 pm
Chap wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:39 pm


It would be more accurate to say that they indicate the amount of spare cash that the CoJCoLDS has to spend on what are essentially vanity projects.



People appear to be slipping away from the church in unprecedented numbers, but look at all the temples ...
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:56 pm
That is obviously going to be what you would say.
Gosh, how did you read my mind?

Hmm ... an organisation with immense piles of cash, but membership retention problems, building lots of large expensive buildings ... how could that point towards the view I expressed?
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Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:56 pm
Members of the church who are endowed and active in the faith see these very same buildings as literally being Houses of the Lord. Earthly sanctuaries that enable the work of the Lord to go on inside of sacred spaces.

That work is the work of the eternities. To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.
Yup. The creator of the vast universe full of countless galaxies, each with uncountable suns and planets ... he just can't do his stuff unless the tiny creatures on one little planet build special buildings, put on particular clothes, and do special stuff. It's quite reasonable, really.
As a non believer, this would be obvious to you, right?
Matthew 7:14
“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
Have you found the truth of God in your life?

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Chap wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:17 pm
... [God] just can't do his stuff unless the tiny creatures on one little planet build special buildings, put on particular clothes, and do special stuff. It's quite reasonable, really.
As an alternative we have…

Drum roll please…

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Step back, look at the whole canvas.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:20 pm
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Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:15 pm


Good start, and something we can objectively measure. So, how does the LDS church stack up against other charities in the world? Have you investigated this at all?
I’m referring to the fourfold mission of the church. You are focusing on one of those missions to the exclusion of the others.

https://www.mormonwiki.com/Four-fold_Mi ... the_Church

Par for the course.

Step back, look at the whole canvas.

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Are you admitting a deficiency in one of the core missions of the church?
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:43 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Step back, look at the whole canvas.

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This time, rather than a simple meme, care to explain? When it comes to the fourfold mission of the church, what is it that is confusing and disturbing to you?

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drumdude wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:49 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:20 pm


I’m referring to the fourfold mission of the church. You are focusing on one of those missions to the exclusion of the others.

https://www.mormonwiki.com/Four-fold_Mi ... the_Church

Par for the course.

Step back, look at the whole canvas.

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Are you admitting a deficiency in one of the core missions of the church?
Are you suggesting that the fourfold mission of the church is not important? That one mission is more important or takes priority over the others?

Again, step back and look at the whole canvas.

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Another thread derailed by mentalgymnast. Sigh.

Getting back to the topic of the OP:
Marcus wrote:
Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:38 pm
Just to get back to the topic,
dastardly stem wrote:
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I was going to put the rest of my updated charts here that I've shared before, but the board says my quota is reached. I'll see if I can figure it out later, for any interested parties.
Hi d stem, what’s the deal with a quota like that? I hope someone can figure that out, I’m sure it’s just a random setting from the switchover.

Anyway, I like seeing your charts so I hope you don’t mind I experimented with posting your ibb link to see if it would bring them over as images:


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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:02 pm
drumdude wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:49 pm


Are you admitting a deficiency in one of the core missions of the church?
Are you suggesting that the fourfold mission of the church is not important? That one mission is more important or takes priority over the others?

Again, step back and look at the whole canvas.

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You're not willing to defend this one mission, though. Right?

What does it say about the church that it isn't transparent about its finances, and it isn't willing to be compared to secular non-profits doing better work with the funds they're given?

Isn't that exactly how a church that worships mamon would work? The Jesus that overturned the money-changing tables would not be the head of a trillion dollar corporate church that keeps its finances secret...
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:02 pm
Again, step back and look at the whole canvas.

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