Romney: Nothing worse than polygamy

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Hi Personage... welcome to the board! :-)

Please correct me if I am wrong but is taking plural wives not an eternal principle? Was it not susspended only for a time? Will it not be practised again in heaven?
If so Mitt will need to soften his heart at some point.


Well, that depends who you ask. ;-)

Of course, polygamy has been taught as an eternal principle, is currently embraced as an eternal principle (although not practiced in its complete form on the earth), and is considered official doctrine if one believes the D&C.

But, if one goes with the idea that there is no official church doctrine, then it can be like other teachings/doctrines/practices... just one of those opinions that come and go.

;-)

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Hi,
Oh boy! I just hope that a few of the LDS Apologists of Polygamy don't hear about former mass. Governor Mitt Romney basically stating that, 'I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING MORE AWFUL THAN POLYGAMY, on 60 minutes. The LDS Apologists of Polygamy on the "FAIR"/MA&D Board such as 'Nighthawke,' 'C.I.' and 'Charity' think and believe that Polygamy is the Greatest thing to have happened on earth, except for maybe the invention of slice bread. Do these three LDS Apologists of Polygamy know about what Mitt Romney stated about Polygamy being awful? I kind of hope not yet.
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Hi Brackite... :-)

Well... Romney is not one of the Brethren, and he is just sharing his opinion. Obviously he is not spiritual enough of he would be a GA and also love polygamy.

:-)

Through observation I have come to notice certain traits in those women and men who like the idea of polygamy. Consistently I hear the same things coming from those who look forward with hope to the day. :-)

I get the impression that Romney loves his wife and truly finds their marriage beautiful and holy. I sense he doesn't even wish for the whole harem thing.

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truth dancer wrote:Hi Brackite... :-)

Well... Romney is not one of the Brethren, and he is just sharing his opinion. Obviously he is not spiritual enough of he would be a GA and also love polygamy.

:-)

Through observation I have come to notice certain traits in those women and men who like the idea of polygamy. Consistently I hear the same things coming from those who look forward with hope to the day. :-)

I get the impression that Romney loves his wife and truly finds their marriage beautiful and holy. I sense he doesn't even wish for the whole harem thing.

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I curious, what traits do you see?

In my experience those who look forward to polygamy tend to have some (usually not all) of the following:

Males

1. A very developed concept of the afterlife.
2. An acceptance of duty
3. A shrewish wife
4. Are obsessed with sex and miss the rest of what it entails

Females (know less)

1. Not jealous
2. have Confidence in their husband
3. Are bisexual
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The Nehor wrote:In my experience those who look forward to polygamy tend to have some (usually not all) of the following:

Males

1. A very developed concept of the afterlife.
2. An acceptance of duty
3. A shrewish wife
4. Are obsessed with sex and miss the rest of what it entails

Females (know less)

1. Not jealous
2. have Confidence in their husband
3. Are bisexual


A very developed concept of the afterlife? What does that mean... that they think they know what the afterlife entails? Like eternal sex for the husbands and eternal pregnancy for the wives?

An acceptance of duty? You think it's your duty to break the covenant of monogamy to your wife?

If a man has one shrewish wife, why would he want more?

What else does polygamy entail, in addition to sex?

What do you mean by "know less"? You personally know less about females? Or females know less?

What does jealousy have to do with polygamy in the CK? There will be no jealousy there. Jealousy is envy, a sin.

What do you mean by "confidence in their husband"?

What does being bisexual have to do with polygamy? Are you saying there will be lesbian sexual opportunities in the CK?
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harmony wrote:
The Nehor wrote:In my experience those who look forward to polygamy tend to have some (usually not all) of the following:

Males

1. A very developed concept of the afterlife.
2. An acceptance of duty
3. A shrewish wife
4. Are obsessed with sex and miss the rest of what it entails

Females (know less)

1. Not jealous
2. have Confidence in their husband
3. Are bisexual


A very developed concept of the afterlife? What does that mean... that they think they know what the afterlife entails? Like eternal sex for the husbands and eternal pregnancy for the wives?

An acceptance of duty? You think it's your duty to break the covenant of monogamy to your wife?

If a man has one shrewish wife, why would he want more?

What else does polygamy entail, in addition to sex?

What do you mean by "know less"? You personally know less about females? Or females know less?

What does jealousy have to do with polygamy in the CK? There will be no jealousy there. Jealousy is envy, a sin.

What do you mean by "confidence in their husband"?

What does being bisexual have to do with polygamy? Are you saying there will be lesbian sexual opportunities in the CK?


I didn't say it made sense, don't ask me to try to make it make sense. I was simply throwing out what I'd seen through years in the Church. Analyze away but I wrote this out and was never able to make sense of a lot of it. A few thoughts though:

I did mean I know less about females and have had less discussions about Polygamy with them.

I think polygamy entails more than sex just like marriage entails more than sex.

By confidence in their husband I meant a deep understanding of the constancy of his love.

The 'acceptance of duty' line I included despite it being a difficult fit. It applies to men who do not look forward to polygamy in the sense of wanting it but are willing to do as God asks if he asks.

The man with the shrewish wife may want another wife thinking it will be different. However in my experience likes attract in this area. I didn't say it was a logical desire.

More than one woman has confessed bisexual urges as a reason for them being willing to accept polygamy. On whether there will be lesbianism in the afterlife.....I have no idea. I doubt it though. Again, it is illogical.

By a more developed view of the afterlife I did not mean to imply that their view is correct. Most anyone who is dogmatic on that point is probably going to find out that they were wrong.
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I think polygamy entails more than sex just like marriage entails more than sex.


No it entails less. It is reverting to a primitive animalistic time when males were sperm donors and females did not require, need, or want males.

By confidence in their husband I meant a deep understanding of the constancy of his love.


This makes no sense to me... OK... the counselor to the woman whose husband has just been caught having a history of affairs, "It is ok, you can tell he loves you. You must have a deep understanding of the constancy of his love." " Just because he doesn't want to be with you, sleeps with other women, doesn't support you, care for you, spend time with you, just because he wants to get intimate with other women doesn't mean he doesn't love you any less. "

The 'acceptance of duty' line I included despite it being a difficult fit. It applies to men who do not look forward to polygamy in the sense of wanting it but are willing to do as God asks if he asks.


Wow... personally I can't think of anything more degrading than a man wanting me because it was his duty. I mean seriously that is about as sick and perverted and demeaning as it comes. Nice God you got there Nehor!

The man with the shrewish wife may want another wife thinking it will be different. However in my experience likes attract in this area. I didn't say it was a logical desire.


In other words, Guys that don't have a great sex life hope for polygamy? Yep... I agree with you on this.... seems consistent.

More than one woman has confessed bisexual urges as a reason for them being willing to accept polygamy. On whether there will be lesbianism in the afterlife.....I have no idea. I doubt it though. Again, it is illogical.


Actually, I have that there were lesbian women in the early days of the church who agreed to polygamy for this very reason.
By a more developed view of the afterlife I did not mean to imply that their view is correct. Most anyone who is dogmatic on that point is probably going to find out that they were wrong.


People who want polygamy want a primitive, animalistic relationship.

For men it means no true connection, emotional intimacy, care, love... but sex with many females.

For women it means no true connection, emotional intimacy, care, love with a man.

Yes, polygamy works for some people, as does all sorts of alternative relationships and mating patterns.

I just for the life of me do not see it as Godly.

It is cruel, animalistic, perverted, base, not to mention completely disgusting. I mean seriously... gross!

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The Nehor wrote:I think polygamy entails more than sex just like marriage entails more than sex.


Absolutely, although it does have to be multiplied by the number of wives does it not? Equal time with Scarlet, Jessica, Bridgette, Candi, Kimberly, Heather, Ariel, Brooke, Sami, etc... mustn't neglect those burdensome duties.
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moksha wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I think polygamy entails more than sex just like marriage entails more than sex.


Absolutely, although it does have to be multiplied by the number of wives does it not? Equal time with Scarlet, Jessica, Bridgette, Candi, Kimberly, Heather, Ariel, Brooke, Sami, etc... mustn't neglect those burdensome duties.


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. Are bisexual


Uhm.....excuse me?
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