Are the LDSforums a successor to FAIR/MAD?

[_The Dude]

I don't know that it's really accurate to label that kind of an MB a "successor" to FAIR/MAD. I predict that this "ldsforum" will be the absolute pits---basically a retread of the very boring and uneventful "Fellowship Forum" that was found on MAD. This *is* a peculiar move, however, and I kind of have to wonder about the thinking that went into it. Of course, as we all know, the More Good Foundation was somehow related to that "The LDS Church monitors over 1,500 anti-Mormon websites" posting, and also the the MGF---via Allen Wyatt---was behind the "savegrantpalmer" cyber-squatting fiasco. It'll be interesting to see how things evolve. I, for one, am curious if they will allow posters such as Bond and The Dude to participate. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

If it really is just a big Fellowship folder, then I don't see how it could possibly hold my interest.

[_The Dude]

I suspect that the purpose of the new board is to provide a place for troubled members or investigators to ask questions about problematic issues, and be provided with the apologetic response without having critics point out the myriad flaws in those responses.

Judging by the reaction of the founder of the MAD board and others to honest, questioning Mormons, I would guess that you're wrong. People who ask those difficult questions will most likely be labeled trolls and kicked off post haste.

Actually, that is an excellent point. So what *will* the new forum be for? I cannot legitimately be for questioning LDS, since, as you point out, these people will be torpedoed ASAP. Is it going to be a kind of "testing ground" whereby the Mopologists can systematically determine which sorts of questions they can handle vs. which they cannot?

No Scratch, that's what MAD does, or is supposed to do.

I agree with beastie -- it's for troubled members (not investigators) who don't want to be troubled further by the presence of critics. People who ask difficult questions will get apologetic answers. Only people who argue with those answers will be labeled trolls and kicked off post haste.

[_Bond...James Bond]

Only people who argue with those answers will be labeled trolls and kicked off post haste.

So when I register over there should I register as Troll, Satan, or He-You-Must-Be-Banned?

[_Nephi]

So when I register over there should I register as Troll, Satan, or He-You-Must-Be-Banned?

Ooo! I choose #3!!!

Man, don't we have enough of these debate hording forums? How many more shall we see? I mean, why, honestly? What's the point!

[_Blixa]

I, for one, am curious if they will allow posters such as Bond and The Dude to participate. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Nope....I was banned (along with a whole slew of posters from here) for my (in)famous "Joseph Smith's Wives Shoutout Thread".....ah good times. Good thing I saved that thread for posterity.....since it was totally deleted by Guiseppe the Cowardly Mod (who hasn't even been taught the subtle art of the red text threat yet....what a newb)

Hmm...seems I'm unbanned. Whoop de doodly do.

[_moksha]

Only people who argue with those answers will be labeled trolls and kicked off post haste.

So when I register over there should I register as Troll, Satan, or He-You-Must-Be-Banned?

I thought you were registered Bond. Didn't you originally tell us about this particular forum? Are you talking about an alternate identity to test the limits of the envelope?

Second thought - Why not register as Larry Craig(R-ID)?

[_AmazingDisgrace]

Judging by the reaction of the founder of the MAD board and others to honest, questioning Mormons, I would guess that you're wrong. People who ask those difficult questions will most likely be labeled trolls and kicked off post haste.

The MAD apologists don't seem to have a problem with the initial asking of difficult questions - it's not being satisfied with the answer that's the crime. If somebody comes to the new board troubled by polygamy and the apologists post a link to a FAIR article and the quesitioner says, "thanks for saving my testimony," all is well. But if the questioner isn't convinced that Joseph's marriages were sexless, dynastic sealings, then she'll get banned.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

So when I register over there should I register as Troll, Satan, or He-You-Must-Be-Banned?

Daniel Peterson is already up and running over there, as well as bemoaning his treatment here. A couple of his quotes:

I'm teetering on the brink of deciding that participation on message boards burns up far more time than it's worth -- I've just ended a supremely pointless and exasperating stint on a certain well-shaded board that won't be named -- but I like what I think is the concept behind this one: A board where serious discussion can occur that might actually be helpful to some people. If it works, that would be worthwhile.

However, my natural viciousness and dishonesty, if they're as egregious and deeply rooted as some of my interlocutors on that other board assure me they are, should become apparent in short order. And that should allay any reasonable doubt.

He sounds genuinely hurt.

[_harmony]

So when I register over there should I register as Troll, Satan, or He-You-Must-Be-Banned?

Daniel Peterson is already up and running over there, as well as bemoaning his treatment here. A couple of his quotes:

I'm teetering on the brink of deciding that participation on message boards burns up far more time than it's worth -- I've just ended a supremely pointless and exasperating stint on a certain well-shaded board that won't be named -- but I like what I think is the concept behind this one: A board where serious discussion can occur that might actually be helpful to some people. If it works, that would be worthwhile.

Exasperating? What in the world did he expect? That his words would be greeted with the awe and acceptance they are on MAD? That he would not have to explain his reasoning? That we would fawn on him like so many others do?

Good grief! Grow up!

I'm not at all surprised that he doesn't appreciate this board, but I'm certain he has no idea how whiney and immature he sounds. Big words do not make a hurt child sound anything like an adult, no matter how hard he tries.

And Daniel's idea of serious discussion that actually helps people has nothing to do with MAD or LDSforums or any other one-sided board. Serious discussion that actually helps people presents the answers from multiple approaches to any question. The church's one-sided approach does nothing to foster either serious discussion or to actually help people.

However, my natural viciousness and dishonesty, if they're as egregious and deeply rooted as some of my interlocutors on that other board assure me they are, should become apparent in short order. And that should allay any reasonable doubt.

He sounds genuinely hurt.

Goodness, is the Great One's skin thinner than any of us could have known? When any of us are hurt by his comments, he makes sure to rub it in. Even though he would never admit such a weakness as Rollo posits, let us take the high road and apologize, in case Rollo is secretly right.

[_wenglund]

The dawn of a new message board....LDS Forums. *cue 2001: A Space Odyssey*

Oh goody....another board for people here to obsess over and gossip about. I can hardly contain my joy. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-