Mormon way of doing business

[_The Nehor]

I've seen several videos of soon to be Mormon missionaries reading their mission calls(?).....kinda interesting to see the large amounts of excitement those kids have for their mission call mail announcement....but whatever.

Also there's a channel of people bearing their testimonies (that's right....nothing but testimonies).

Of course they're excited, they want to know where they're going. I know I was excited.

[_Bond...James Bond]

Of course they're excited, they want to know where they're going. I know I was excited.

I wonder how excited some of them are when they realize they're going to a third world country........is the dysentery they get in Haiti considered "Nephi's Revenge"?

[_The Nehor]

Of course they're excited, they want to know where they're going. I know I was excited.

I wonder how excited some of them are when they realize they're going to a third world country........is the dysentery they get in Haiti considered "Nephi's Revenge"?

Usually those ones are the most excited.

[_Mormons4Justice]

What seems to be the most amazing aspect of this whole thing is that no-one is investigating this guy at all:

http://www.slideshare.net/Mormons4justi ... y-hilliard

Muhammed Attah hung around this guys airline, flying his airplanes with his "terrorist" buddies for 2 years while snorting cocaine and doing other non-Muslim things (living with a strip club dancer).

This airline owner also "coincidently" does business with a billionaire Arab and the brother of Osama Bin Laden. Hmmmmm. Wonder if he can answer just a few questions....

What small airline owner doesn't meet with "his pilots" on a regular basis before turning over his multi-million aircraft keys?

Attah was reportedly an "instructor" and not a student. He had already been trained in Europe and hung out with "Austrians and Germans"; not other Islamic Fundamentalists.

All the records of the "Flight School" were personally carted off by Jeb Bush's plane, with Jeb on board, after being confiscated by state and supposed Federal Law Enforcement. Where are they??? Why were they kept from the 9/11 Commission?

Two years of payroll records and flight logs...all gone...bye! bye! Forever!

Yet, no-one wants to bring this guy before the 9-11 commission.....

[_truth dancer]

This reminds me of a time while living in the Bay area, when the church took out a full page add in the newspaper lighlighting the rich and famous members of the church. IRRC there were about ten or twelve powerful or "elite" members with their pictures and a bio.

The missionary tactic was... show how true our church is by telling the world we have rich and famous members.

Even at the time, as a believing member it made me physically sick inside.

It just felt so contrary to the teachings of Jesus... to be humble, meek, gentle.

in my opinion, Christ would have honored the poor, weak, unsuccessful by the world's standard, people not those who are in positions of glory and fame.

The idea that goodness is equated with wealth and power just doesn't set well with me.

~dancer~

[_Inconceivable]

With the emmergence fof YouTube and other internet ways of getting your message
out, Do you think this will grow to be one of the primary ways the LDS will package
their message?

..I am surprised that there wasn't a tag line at the end...

What do you think?

I think I'm a little off topic here.

It's nice to know there are some Mormons out there that appear to be honest in their business dealings. I think that's one of the reasons why they refferred to the better philosophies of the church rather than the church itself.

Over the years, the most troublesome business relationships I've had were with Mormons. They, and the born again Christians are the most unpredictable bunch.

Man, I can't stand associating with cheap, unappreciative people that sport an unhealthy sense of entitlement.

I have learned by sad experience that if anyone introduces themselves to me with the tag like "I'm Mormon" or "born again", or if they know from an aquaintance that I am a Mormon and attempt to make our common ground our religeon - well, I make a grab for my wallet before they do, and run.

It impresses me that the guys on the Utube video would prefer to keep their affiliation with the church low key.

I have been most impressed by business people that would rather keep their religious affilitation a secret at least until after the transaction, work or contract is fullfilled. That's how I've learned to do business more safely.

I've been in the habit of emphasizing to my Mormon associates (and friends) that do work for my family that I am hiring them because of their honesty and expertise, not because we expect a good deal out of a sense of entitlement or community.

There is a lot to be said on this subject specifically and probably warrants a few seperate threads.

[_harmony]

That the church is involved in business at all is unacceptable to me. Business has nothing to do with ministering to the downtrodden, saving souls, or helping ordinary people live the gospel, and for the church to spend such vast amounts of money as they did on the mall is just disgusting. No amount of profit can make up for the the lack of a true prophet at the head of the church. We've got 15 men called as prophets, and not one among them ever has an original thought. All we get is recycled regurgitation. I'm sure they're all very nice, but not one of them has ever fulfilled their callings as prophets.

Our church leaders show by example what is most important to them... and it's not compassion! The church as an employer lags behind the leaders in industry and business in business practices that protect the family. Many businesses provide on-site daycare now, and on-site workout rooms, and EAP programs, and comfortable pleasant work stations. Were the church leaders truly inspired, we'd see people lining up to apply for open positions with the church, not because of their affiliation with the organization, but because of the great work conditions. We'd see businesses lining up to be taught how to take care of their employees as well as we see them lining up to be trained on how to teach a foreign language. But we don't, because our leaders are more obsessed with making money than with taking care of their employees.

[_Polygamy Porter]

That the church is involved in business at all is unacceptable to me. Business has nothing to do with ministering to the downtrodden, saving souls, or helping ordinary people live the gospel, and for the church to spend such vast amounts of money as they did on the mall is just disgusting. No amount of profit can make up for the the lack of a true prophet at the head of the church. We've got 15 men called as prophets, and not one among them ever has an original thought. All we get is recycled regurgitation. I'm sure they're all very nice, but not one of them has ever fulfilled their callings as prophets.

Our church leaders show by example what is most important to them... and it's not compassion! The church as an employer lags behind the leaders in industry and business in business practices that protect the family. Many businesses provide on-site daycare now, and on-site workout rooms, and EAP programs, and comfortable pleasant work stations. Were the church leaders truly inspired, we'd see people lining up to apply for open positions with the church, not because of their affiliation with the organization, but because of the great work conditions. We'd see businesses lining up to be taught how to take care of their employees as well as we see them lining up to be trained on how to teach a foreign language. But we don't, because our leaders are more obsessed with making money than with taking care of their employees.

And yet you defend LDS Inc...

[_mocnarf]

That the church is involved in business at all is unacceptable to me. Business has nothing to do with ministering to the downtrodden, saving souls, or helping ordinary people live the gospel, and for the church to spend such vast amounts of money as they did on the mall is just disgusting. No amount of profit can make up for the the lack of a true prophet at the head of the church. We've got 15 men called as prophets, and not one among them ever has an original thought. All we get is recycled regurgitation. I'm sure they're all very nice, but not one of them has ever fulfilled their callings as prophets.

Our church leaders show by example what is most important to them... and it's not compassion! The church as an employer lags behind the leaders in industry and business in business practices that protect the family. Many businesses provide on-site daycare now, and on-site workout rooms, and EAP programs, and comfortable pleasant work stations. Were the church leaders truly inspired, we'd see people lining up to apply for open positions with the church, not because of their affiliation with the organization, but because of the great work conditions. We'd see businesses lining up to be taught how to take care of their employees as well as we see them lining up to be trained on how to teach a foreign language. But we don't, because our leaders are more obsessed with making money than with taking care of their employees.

Harmony, you must remember that people are the servents of God. And, the Church is God's representitive on this earth. So why would why would God's noblemen look at the servents as anything more than servents?

[_Pokatator]

What seems to be the most amazing aspect of this whole thing is that no-one is investigating this guy at all:

http://www.slideshare.net/Mormons4justi ... y-hilliard

Muhammed Attah hung around this guys airline, flying his airplanes with his "terrorist" buddies for 2 years while snorting cocaine and doing other non-Muslim things (living with a strip club dancer).

This airline owner also "coincidently" does business with a billionaire Arab and the brother of Osama Bin Laden. Hmmmmm. Wonder if he can answer just a few questions....

What small airline owner doesn't meet with "his pilots" on a regular basis before turning over his multi-million aircraft keys?

Attah was reportedly an "instructor" and not a student. He had already been trained in Europe and hung out with "Austrians and Germans"; not other Islamic Fundamentalists.

All the records of the "Flight School" were personally carted off by Jeb Bush's plane, with Jeb on board, after being confiscated by state and supposed Federal Law Enforcement. Where are they??? Why were they kept from the 9/11 Commission?

Two years of payroll records and flight logs...all gone...bye! bye! Forever!

Yet, no-one wants to bring this guy before the 9-11 commission.....

"Hey, I viewed all 41 pages of the slide show and every bit of it could be true except for the part about Hilliard being a Mormon Bishop and scouting for the church for that 10,000 acre cattle ranch in Cuba." typical MAD apologist