Powell's endorsement of Obama

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BC wrote:And voting for a black person simply because he is black is going to solve that? You just reduced yourself to a ditsy white woman voting because of white guilt.


First of all, how in the hell did you get the idea that I'm voting for Obama simply because he is black? Did I ever state that? No, I did not. You have NO reading comprehension skills at all. What I stated was that we should be celebrating the fact that we have an African American candidate being taken seriously as a Presidential candidate, and that racism is not the problem it used to be.

How you feel that translates into me voting for Obama simply because he is black, I have no idea. It's completely bogus.

YOU have reduced YOURSELF to a misogynistic, racist, arrogant ass, who is an embarrassment to upstanding priesthood holders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints everywhere.
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Well I'm totally voting for Obama just because he's black. I can only hope that he will carry out his promise of a bucket of fried chick and a whole watermelon in every home and won't steal my car.

Screwed up thing is, BC will read that and think I'm serious.
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Hmmm. Until I was 11, I grew up in a predominately black area. Currently, I'm living in a highly racially diverse area. So, speaking with all the authority that apparently gives me, let me just say that attributing Powell's endorsement to race like it was done here, especially by BCSpace, is straight up racist.

And there is no more cliché' self-defense against bigotry then the bigot claiming he/she has friends who are members of the group they are expressing bigotry towards. That's why "But I have friends who are black/gay/latino/whatever!" is a cringeworthy expression.
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Re: Powell's endorsement of Obama

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Angus McAwesome wrote:Well I'm totally voting for Obama just because he's black. I can only hope that he will carry out his promise of a bucket of fried chick and a whole watermelon in every home and won't steal my car.



Angus, that was McAwesome.
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That reminds me. Did you catch the "Obama Bucks" bit? It was so ridiculously racist that it was very funny:

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The person who sent it out acting innocent is quite funny as well:

Diane Fedele, president of the group, said the move had no racist intent.

"I never connected," she said. "It was just food to me. It didn't mean anything else."

Fedele said she had received the illustration in e-mails and decided to reprint it to poke fun at a previous remark by Obama that he doesn't look like other presidents.

"It was strictly an attempt to point out the outrageousness of his statement. I really don't want to go into it any further," ...


http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Newsl ... feedID=171
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I think that one of the reasons that Powell endorsed Obama is that he does not want his legacy linked to the Bush administration.


Too late. He was after all Sec of State for Bush for four years.


There were mistakes made there. Bush did not follow Powell's counsel on some issues regarding the war, and I think that has a bearing on his decision.


Examples?


I also think that Powell's endorsement of Obama does not take away from Powell's respect for McCain. He stated that this was a very difficult choice, given the 25 year friendship he has with McCain.


I am sure this helps McCain feel just jolly about now.

I don't think that there is any dispute that McCain knows the battlefield, and has a better knowledge of war tactics than probably any U.S. Presidential candidate we have had.



Are you sure? I think Dwight Eisenhower was pretty astute about such things. Or do you mean current presidential candidates?

However, a President needs to have a certain amount of charisma in order to effectively influence those he is trying to lead. Obama has that. Reagan had it. Kennedy had it.



Charisma ain't gonno get Barak too far when the poop hits the fan.

Like it or not the American people are craving this type of leadership.

And, Powell's point is that he has met with Obama, and has a feel with who Obama will surround himself with in order to lead an effective war.



Whoopie!


The economy is a mess. Obama's economic plans make sense.


No they don't. Not at all. What makes sense about them? Rescue mortgages that have gone bad (McCain proposes this stupid idea as well) increase taxes, continue to increase the money supply which will lead to rampant inflation????? There is little that makes sense about Obamas plans. Course the same could be said about McCain save his plans to keep tax rates low.


I also support his stance on education funding, and his healthcare plan


I don't at least not on health care.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Charisma ain't gonno get Barak too far when the poop hits the fan.

Like it or not the American people are craving this type of leadership.

If I recall correctly, it was a valuable asset for Reagan and perhaps the reason he was known as the "teflon" president.
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Jason wrote:Are you sure? I think Dwight Eisenhower was pretty astute about such things. Or do you mean current presidential candidates?


Sorry, Jason. I meant more current candidates.

I will answer your other questions when I have a little more time to commit to answering. I have a 4 year old who is still awake that I need to get to bed. LOL

Thank you, by the way, for engaging in a civil form of debate. Maybe BC will look at your example. (somehow, I doubt it).

You can disagree with someone without attacking them.
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Jason, this is the link to Obama's economic plan. I'll address some of the specifics a little later:

http://74.125.113.104/search?q=cache:B7 ... ent=safari
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liz3564 wrote:Jason, this is the link to Obama's economic plan. I'll address some of the specifics a little later:

http://74.125.113.104/search?q=cache:B7 ... ent=safari



There is a lot there. Why don't you pick the top four or five you like and let's discuss.

I think a few are ok. Many smack of socialistic policies. Some, including his health insurance plan and his mandatory pension deal would be horrible for small business and this slow economic growth. Any thing that buys back mortgages from people who over extended I oppose.
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