Restoration of the sealing keys for marriage?

[_mormonmessages]

No, worship/love of the Father is first and foremost. The first and greatest commandment.

Not so. To be LDS requires that you accept the understanding of God and Jesus as detailed by Joseph Smith.

Remember, God and Jesus told Joseph that all other sect were wrong and their creeds were abominations. Therefore any worship of God and/or Jesus outside of the LDS theology is, according to LDS doctrine, incorrect.

Do the missionaries ask investigators to pray about the Bible first? No.

Do they ask investigators to receive a witness of Jesus or God first? No.

Go ahead oh mighty RM, tell us which prayer the investigator should pray first.

Go ask the online missionaries, they all will tell you the same thing. Pray about the Book of Mormon.

[_harmony]

Remember, God and Jesus told Joseph that all other sect were wrong and their creeds were abominations.

That pesky lack of witnesses raises its head again.

[_The Nehor]

No, worship/love of the Father is first and foremost. The first and greatest commandment.

Not so. To be LDS requires that you accept the understanding of God and Jesus as detailed by Joseph Smith.

As a starting point, yes. However, this does not elevate Joseph to the status of God no matter hom much you think it does.

Remember, God and Jesus told Joseph that all other sect were wrong and their creeds were abominations. Therefore any worship of God and/or Jesus outside of the LDS theology is, according to LDS doctrine, incorrect.

To one level or another, yes. However, I would argue that no one truly understands the nature of God so I believe we all worship him incorrectly in some way. I know I've made great strides but have a long way to go.

Do the missionaries ask investigators to pray about the Bible first? No.

Not sure how this matters.

Do they ask investigators to receive a witness of Jesus or God first? No.

Yes. One of the first things we ask them to do is read the account to Jesus Christ appearing to the Nephites. We then ask them to get a witness of this book that testifies of him. Logically, they're getting a witness of the Father and the Son.

Go ahead oh mighty RM, tell us which prayer the investigator should pray first.

They start with an introduction directing the prayer to God.

Go ask the online missionaries, they all will tell you the same thing. Pray about the Book of Mormon.

Agreed, as a witness of God and Jesus finding the truth of it will clear up the whole problem quickly. If you wish to pray to ask if God is there first (many of my investigators did this) then that's fine too. Praying to get a witness of the First Vision is also not primarily about Joseph. Of the three figures there he is the least important.

[_Yoda]

Go ahead oh mighty RM, tell us which prayer the investigator should pray first.

Mormonmessages, I think that Nehor, the "mighty RM", did a great job of answering your questions.

[_Gazelam]

In the case of polygamy you are forgetting that there are various kinds.

A couple can be sealed for time and all eternity.

A couple can be sealed for time but not eternity.

A couple can be sealed for eternity but not for time.

Joseph had requested from the Lord further understanding regarding polygamy as he studied the Old Testament. The Lord had instructed him and then commanded him to practice it before the sealing power had been restored.

Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger were practicing polygamy for time. They may or may not have been sealed for eternity at a later date. I do not know. I would assume that they were.

[_moksha]

If you do not believe in the divinity of Smith you will most likely worship God and Jesus incorrectly and with ZERO authority.

When did Joseph become divine?

Wouldn't this make for a very interesting talk at General Conference?

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[_Gazelam]

Moksha,

Wouldn't this make for a very interesting talk at General Conference?

You mean when we get to watch the guys with sunglasses and earphones escort the speaker from the podium? Yeh, that would be interesting.

[_mormonmessages]

Remember, God and Jesus told Joseph that all other sect were wrong and their creeds were abominations.

That pesky lack of witnesses raises its head again.

Yep. that's why it is paramount to get the warm fuzzy about Joey and his book of pretend indian tales.

[_zzyzx]

"In the case of polygamy you are forgetting that there are various kinds.
A couple can be sealed for time and all eternity.
A couple can be sealed for time but not eternity.
A couple can be sealed for eternity but not for time.
Joseph had requested from the Lord further understanding regarding polygamy as he studied the Old Testament. The Lord had instructed him and then commanded him to practice it before the sealing power had been restored.
Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger were practicing polygamy for time. They may or may not have been sealed for eternity at a later date. I do not know. I would assume that they were"

Sounds like a load of fertilizer in print to me. Any source material I can get to online to confirm the various types of mistress Joseph could have had without the "Keys" he later got from Elijah? No authority to seal marriages. No Temple to do the work in. Sounds like a classic case of 'find a babe and justify yourself after you are found out'.

[_harmony]

Sounds like a classic case of 'find a babe and justify yourself after you are found out'.

And lose your priesthood and prophetic power, due to adultery. And then lose your exaltation due to not repenting.