Homes of the Prophets.....

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Re: Homes of the Prophets.....

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ldsfaqs wrote:Note how you guys only cherry pick early Mormonism, in which THEY HAD LARGE FAMILY's.... and completely ignore every prophet since, their modest standard sized middle class homes.


Joseph Smith didn't live with any of his other wives, and Brigham Young lived with few of his. I guess the early prophets were more ostentatious and less embarrassed at conspicuous displays of tithing-fueled wealth.
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Re: Homes of the Prophets.....

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Buffalo wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:http://www.moroni10.com/prophets_homes.html

Thought it brings a good perspective contrary to the "babble" here.


Smith did very well for himself, didn't he?
God did it...

Here follow the words of the Father and the Son and the Holy Broker:
'Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, 19 January 1841'
D&C 124 wrote:
56 And now I say unto you, as pertaining to my boarding house which I have commanded you to build for the boarding of strangers, let it be built unto my name, and let my name be named upon it, and let my servant Joseph and his house have place therein, from generation to generation.
57 For this anointing have I put upon his head, that his blessing shall also be put upon the head of his posterity after him.
59 Therefore, let my servant Joseph and his seed after him have place in that house, from generation to generation, forever and ever, saith the Lord.

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62 Behold, verily I say unto you, let my servant George Miller, and my servant Lyman Wight, and my servant John Snider, and my servant Peter Haws, organize themselves, and appoint one of them to be a president over their quorum for the purpose of building that house.
63 And they shall form a constitution, whereby they may receive stock for the building of that house.
64 And they shall not receive less than fifty dollars for a share of stock in that house, and they shall be permitted to receive fifteen thousand dollars from any one man for stock in that house.
65 But they shall not be permitted to receive over fifteen thousand dollars stock from any one man.
66 And they shall not be permitted to receive under fifty dollars for a share of stock from any one man in that house.
67 And they shall not be permitted to receive any man, as a stockholder in this house, except the same shall pay his stock into their hands at the time he receives stock;
68 And in proportion to the amount of stock he pays into their hands he shall receive stock in that house; but if he pays nothing into their hands he shall not receive any stock in that house.
69 And if any pay stock into their hands it shall be for stock in that house, for himself, and for his generation after him, from generation to generation, so long as he and his heirs shall hold that stock, and do not sell or convey the stock away out of their hands by their own free will and act, if you will do my will, saith the Lord your God.
70 And again, verily I say unto you, if my servant George Miller, and my servant Lyman Wight, and my servant John Snider, and my servant Peter Haws, receive any stock into their hands, in moneys, or in properties wherein they receive the real value of moneys, they shall not appropriate any portion of that stock to any other purpose, only in that house.
71 And if they do appropriate any portion of that stock anywhere else, only in that house, without the consent of the stockholder, and do not repay fourfold for the stock which they appropriate anywhere else, only in that house, they shall be accursed, and shall be moved out of their place, saith the Lord God; for I, the Lord, am God, and cannot be mocked in any of these things.
72 Verily I say unto you, let my servant Joseph pay stock into their hands for the building of that house, as seemeth him good; but my servant Joseph cannot pay over fifteen thousand dollars stock in that house, nor under fifty dollars; neither can any other man, saith the Lord.
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Re: Homes of the Prophets.....

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I was in President Kimball's Laird Ave home a couple of times when he was still an apostle. It was nice but average. Most of the Apostles have lived in more upper middle class surroundings during their tenure. Very spacious and deluxe living accommodations seem to come with the white smoke ballot of old age, when they ascend to the Presidency of the Church.

The exception being the current President Thomas Monson who has stayed out of the Presidential Penthouse.
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I think Joseph Smith had a really nice house for someone who filed bankruptcy.
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Re: Homes of the Prophets.....

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Why doesn't this link mention President Monson's second home in Midway, UT?

http://www.salamandersociety.com/foyer/gamap/
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Kent_WA wrote:Why doesn't this link mention President Monson's second home in Midway, UT?

http://www.salamandersociety.com/foyer/gamap/


Wot? he has TWO homes?
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Re: Homes of the Prophets.....

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ldsfaqs wrote:Note how you guys only cherry pick early Mormonism, in which THEY HAD LARGE FAMILY's.... and completely ignore every prophet since, their modest standard sized middle class homes.


It's not a matter of necessity; it's a matter of ability to pay. The Beehive House, for example is not just a large home. It is an opulent mansion.

Where did they get the money to support those large families, ldsfaqs? How could Brigham Young afford the Beehive House and the Lion House (and his St. George house)? How could he afford one of them, let alone all of them?

I'll give you a hint. Have you ever played Monopoly and noticed that the person who volunteers to be the banker never runs out of money?
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Re: Homes of the Prophets.....

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Just for fun, let's have a look at what real estate tithing pays for...


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