Adam, first man circa 4,000 bc....?

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LittleNipper wrote:
son of Ishmael wrote:Yeah but those infants were evil infants...

The infants were not evil; however, they would have grown up to become evil and they would have then have gone to the very same destination as their parents.


Are you saying that children don't choose to be evil, it's just an inbuilt trait from God?
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LittleNipper wrote:
son of Ishmael wrote:Yeah but those infants were evil infants...

The infants were not evil; however, they would have grown up to become evil and they would have then have gone to the very same destination as their parents.


Could you define "evil" please?
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LittleNipper wrote: The infants were not evil; however, they would have grown up to become evil and they would have then have gone to the very same destination as the parents...
ludwigm wrote:Says who?

Who are we to say no? Evil goes in --- evil comes out. Hitler was once an innocent baby too. Most people try to ignore that simple fact. Might the world have been a better place had he drowned as an infant? I imagine Hitler now wishes he died a baby or had never been born... God is the utimate judge and when people begin to point their finger at God, well, He is certainly big enough to take it.
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just me wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:The infants were not evil; however, they would have grown up to become evil and they would have then have gone to the very same destination as their parents.


Could you define "evil" please?

Promoting one's own agenda instead of being like Christ.
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Drifting wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:The infants were not evil; however, they would have grown up to become evil and they would have then have gone to the very same destination as their parents.


Are you saying that children don't choose to be evil, it's just an inbuilt trait from God?

No, I'm suggesting that babies haven't yet had the opportunity to premeditatedly reject God's will.
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So you do then support the slaughter of innocents?
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SteelHead wrote:So you do then support the slaughter of innocents?

I am against abortion. I am not against the dropping of the A bomb on Hiroshima. There is a big difference.
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This wasn't an a bomb it was house to house melee combat. The children could have been spared and raised by the Israelites.

What kind of god orders the slaughter of innocents?
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SteelHead wrote:This wasn't an a bomb it was house to house melee combat. The children could have been spared and raised by the Israelites.

What kind of god orders the slaughter of innocents?


They would grow up to hate their adoptive parents. War is war. People burned and looted. It still happens today. The abuse of people is one thing; however, killing outright in battle is totally different. I do not see torture as a God ordained. Even letting bodies lay around/hang around isn't something God wanted to happen.
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Suckling babes wouldn't have even known they were adopted.

And while war is war how does the same god who suffers the little children order the death of suckling babes?

The narrative changes when the slaughter is ordered by god.
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