Jersey Girl’s hot take with regard to #3 is excellent.
I'm not reading whatever followed this comment until I say this. I've already stated what I think motivated her. Her ultimate goal? I see a woman who is seeking an identity. Because she doesn't have one. That leads me to believe that she suffered trauma (Sustained chronic abuse?) early in life and I can't get away from that possibility. It is for that reason, that I feel sorry for her. But that doesn't mean that I or anyone else here, needs to give her one single second more of our attention. It doesn't solve anything. It doesn't help her and it certainly does nothing for us.
I think either Rosebud herself or JPatterson said Rosebud suffered some sort of trauma earlier in her life. Would that cause her to fixate on Dehlin all these years? Even so, here we are and your analysis makes sense on why she does what she does.
Also, I wonder why Rosebud is ratcheting up the pressure now? She, or through JPatterson, is making allegations that there was a prior sexual relationship and not just steamy talk, yet frustratingly won't provide any proof. Do you think this is just more of the same cry for what was lost and part of the same continued fixation? I guess we'll maybe soon find out, as Dehlin says more is about to come out.
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Myth is misused by the powerful to subjugate the masses all too often.
So. Many. Sockpuppets. Not a good look for JP & Rosebud.
- Doc
A worse look may be on the horizon. It seems Rosebud is planning to release, without listening to it, a recording she made several years back where she thinks she told the whole story of what happened. A free form, 3 year old verbal riff, no editing. That will NOT go well, I predict.
I think either Rosebud herself or JPatterson said Rosebud suffered some sort of trauma earlier in her life. Would that cause her to fixate on Dehlin all these years? Even so, here we are and your analysis makes sense on why she does what she does.
Also, I wonder why Rosebud is ratcheting up the pressure now? She, or through JPatterson, is making allegations that there was a prior sexual relationship and not just steamy talk, yet frustratingly won't provide any proof. Do you think this is just more of the same cry for what was lost and part of the same continued fixation? I guess we'll maybe soon find out, as Dehlin says more is about to come out.
Does it have anything to do with the fact that the almost equally bizarre Kate Kelly has taken up her cause for her own benefit? KK has lost relevance, and so now she goes after Dehlin by using some broken lady with a Dehlin fixation. Teaming up with Kwaku El, who is, charming though he may be, almost entirely without scruples or good judgment, shows just how desperate and unmoored from actual integrity KK is. The whole thing is this enormous cluster-f of people who make anyone with any taste and decency wretch. I say to blazes with the whole bunch of them.
In retrospect, it is a shame that this looks like a bunch of folks who are really about themselves over their causes. I don't have a lot of respect for anyone of them at this point, even though I have to admit that setting off on that journey of being a well known activist is a treacherous prospect and not something for the faint of heart or perhaps the healthy individual. Thar be sea monsters in those waters, mateys!
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
A worse look may be on the horizon. It seems Rosebud is planning to release, without listening to it, a recording she made several years back where she thinks she told the whole story of what happened. A free form, 3 year old verbal riff, no editing. That will NOT go well, I predict.
If only there were some way those who love her could intervene to keep her from hurting herself further. She is drowning. It is really, really awful.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
A worse look may be on the horizon. It seems Rosebud is planning to release, without listening to it, a recording she made several years back where she thinks she told the whole story of what happened. A free form, 3 year old verbal riff, no editing. That will NOT go well, I predict.
If only there were some way those who love her could intervene to keep her from hurting herself further. She is drowning. It is really, really awful.
I just want to point out that Kishkumen serves up a softball like that it's tough, man. It's really tough to, you know, just let it go. Like. It hurts, man. That a big, fat, white softball is lazily arcing through the warm Spring day, and I'm just sitting there in the batter's box, polyester uniform hitched up a bit, my old high school cleats laced up, my trucker's cap slightly notched to the side, and I just ease off the pitch.
I think either Rosebud herself or JPatterson said Rosebud suffered some sort of trauma earlier in her life. Would that cause her to fixate on Dehlin all these years? Even so, here we are and your analysis makes sense on why she does what she does.
Also, I wonder why Rosebud is ratcheting up the pressure now? She, or through JPatterson, is making allegations that there was a prior sexual relationship and not just steamy talk, yet frustratingly won't provide any proof. Do you think this is just more of the same cry for what was lost and part of the same continued fixation? I guess we'll maybe soon find out, as Dehlin says more is about to come out.
Does it have anything to do with the fact that the almost equally bizarre Kate Kelly has taken up her cause for her own benefit? KK has lost relevance, and so now she goes after Dehlin by using some broken lady with a Dehlin fixation. Teaming up with Kwaku El, who is, charming though he may be, almost entirely without scruples or good judgment, shows just how desperate and unmoored from actual integrity KK is. The whole thing is this enormous cluster-f of people who make anyone with any taste and decency wretch. I say to blazes with the whole bunch of them.
In retrospect, it is a shame that this looks like a bunch of folks who are really about themselves over their causes. I don't have a lot of respect for anyone of them at this point, even though I have to admit that setting off on that journey of being a well known activist is a treacherous prospect and not something for the faint of heart or perhaps the healthy individual. Thar be sea monsters in those waters, mateys!
Beware of crusading lawyers bent on self-promotion. It definitely harms the profession and takes away a little credibility from those defending their clients. Rosebud's continual push for redress of the relatively small harms she suffered when JD pushed her out also takes a little away from legitimate harassment victims. Psychological profiles are used or implied in these cases and it would be better for victims if Rosebud let it go. 10 years of this is all together too much in hopes of collecting on her bill or trying to manipulate JD back into whatever she believes was going to happen. Then Kwaku, the dance king, is an amateur and your observation of desperation on KK's part is on the mark.
I wonder who is next to join the JD hate club? Rock Waterman? John Larsen? Perhaps the Infants on Thrones crew? The time is hot to get a little attention from JD's follies.
Myth is misused by the powerful to subjugate the masses all too often.
Yeah, DocCam, I know. I appreciate any restraint that keeps us out of trouble. I should be less of a naïf in my posting habits.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
I wonder who is next to join the JD hate club? Rock Waterman? John Larsen? Perhaps the Infants on Thrones crew? The time is hot to get a little attention from JD's follies.
Maybe the place to look for his future enemies is among his current associates and friends.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
Does it have anything to do with the fact that the almost equally bizarre Kate Kelly has taken up her cause for her own benefit? KK has lost relevance, and so now she goes after Dehlin by using some broken lady with a Dehlin fixation. Teaming up with Kwaku El, who is, charming though he may be, almost entirely without scruples or good judgment, shows just how desperate and unmoored from actual integrity KK is. The whole thing is this enormous cluster-f of people who make anyone with any taste and decency wretch. I say to blazes with the whole bunch of them.
In retrospect, it is a shame that this looks like a bunch of folks who are really about themselves over their causes. I don't have a lot of respect for anyone of them at this point, even though I have to admit that setting off on that journey of being a well known activist is a treacherous prospect and not something for the faint of heart or perhaps the healthy individual. Thar be sea monsters in those waters, mateys!
Beware of crusading lawyers bent on self-promotion. It definitely harms the profession and takes away a little credibility from those defending their clients. Rosebud's continual push for redress of the relatively small harms she suffered when JD pushed her out also takes a little away from legitimate harassment victims. Psychological profiles are used or implied in these cases and it would be better for victims if Rosebud let it go. 10 years of this is all together too much in hopes of collecting on her bill or trying to manipulate JD back into whatever she believes was going to happen. Then Kwaku, the dance king, is an amateur and your observation of desperation on KK's part is on the mark.
I wonder who is next to join the JD hate club? Rock Waterman? John Larsen? Perhaps the Infants on Thrones crew? The time is hot to get a little attention from JD's follies.
I think there is an orchestrated attack on anything perceived as anti Mormon from the church. I think the internet has forced them into a rabid frenzy similar to what gay marriage did and their pox.
I think there is an orchestrated attack on anything perceived as anti Mormon from the church. I think the internet has forced them into a rabid frenzy similar to what gay marriage did and their pox.
I certainly wouldn't exclude the possibility. What is the evidence supporting this, however? The Kwaku video was pretty emphatic about the fact that Kwaku was taking sole responsibility for it. I guess we have KK going on the Kwaku/Cardon show a couple of times, but that is pretty weak evidence for direct church support, no?
Again, it is not that I would discount the possibility, but I want to see the evidence set out.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
That will NOT go well, I predict.
