Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

[Jersey Girl]

She's lawyering up. Collecting donations for attorney fees.

[jpatterson]

The fact that this thread has gone on for 60 pages kind of cuts into John's argument that any accusations of impropriety against him are baseless.

[jpatterson]

Hey man, no big deal here...just saying it seems to me getting involved was a bad move. There is likely more to the story than what John fed ya and more than what the board new. I get the impulse to defend your friend. And your probably fine since Rosebud doesn't have much and comes off as unreliable.

It’s all cool, my brother.

But I rankle a bit when people tell me I was defending Dehlin.

Or even thank me for defending John Dehlin.

I wasn’t defending Dehlin. I was trying to get some important documents and witness statements out of obscurity and to the public.

This was evidence the Open Stories Foundation board had known about for almost a decade, but hadn’t released it or talked about it publicly in spite of Rosebud’s frequent attempts to mischaracterize the situation.

They kept all this close to their vest out of deference to Rosebud and her mental health, as well I’m sure out of not wanting to douse gasoline on a small flame and hoping she would just get over it and go away.

Eventually that flame became a conflagration courtesy of Kwaku, KK and Company (with the consent if not encouragement of Rosebud), and the board decided the time had come to speak of many things.

“Heat not a fire for your foe so hot that it do singe yourself.”

Dehlin got you to defend him without even realizing you were defending him? And to help him trot out false testimony on top of that? Oh this is too good.

[drumdude]

The fact that this thread has gone on for 60 pages kind of cuts into John's argument that any accusations of impropriety against him are baseless.

Is John arguing that he acted properly? It's pretty clear to everyone now that he did not. The only thing that matters now is if this has enough substance for a criminal or civil trial, which again I think most of us can agree it does not.

Rosebud and John have both made their plays and the court of public opinion will give them their 5 minutes of fame and move on. I'm sure that won't stop you and Rosebud from spending the next decade repeating the "we have evidence we still haven't released" game. And keeping the "John Dehlin is an alleged pedophile" website online.

[Moksha]

The fact that this thread has gone on for 60 pages kind of cuts into John's argument that any accusations of impropriety against him are baseless.

Just wait till the impaneled Mormon Discussions jury hears the official prosecution opening arguments. by the way, have all the asked for documents been turned over yet? Will Kwaku and Kate Kelly be on the official witness list? What about Dr. Midgley who can give the Maori perspective?

[canpakes]

jp,

I have evidence that John Dehlin still has a VHS movie tape in his possession that should have been returned to Blockbuster some time ago.

Text me and I will fill you in on the details.

[jpatterson]

but being in a consensual relationship with your boss, ending said relationship, then being terminated is not sexual harassment by itself.

According to the Open Stories Foundation's sexual harassment policy it is.

[jpatterson]

And keeping the "John Dehlin is an alleged pedophile" website online.

Not my circus, not my monkeys. I have zero to do with that website or with any supposed sock puppets on YouTube.

[Jersey Girl]

but being in a consensual relationship with your boss, ending said relationship, then being terminated is not sexual harassment by itself.

According to the Open Stories Foundation's sexual harassment policy it is.

What is the effective date on that policy?

[drumdude]

And keeping the "John Dehlin is an alleged pedophile" website online.

Not my circus, not my monkeys. I have zero to do with that website or with any supposed sock puppets on YouTube.

Honestly I'm glad to hear rosebud didn't rope you in that far. Defending her is one thing but jumping with her off the ledge is another.