ACIM: radical but sensible?

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

Mrs MacEvil

Here is the person who mentions the personages.. The webpages hint at something like an Abraham-Hicks sort of... Influence! so you know anything of either ACIM, The Secret, or Abraham-Hicks?

I haven't read the Renard book, but I know many people who do like it. His book is not ACIM . A Course in Miracles is the title of a book, actually a compilation of three books. For whatever reason, Renard isn't the only reader of ACIM who is inspired to have heavenly visitations to explain or expand on the ideas in ACIM. Renard's heavenly visitors are absent from A Course in Miracles.

I am familiar with The Secret and consider it to have absolutely nothing in common with ACIM. If it claims inspiration from ACIM, it is a case of inspiration gone horribly wrong. I don't know anything about Abraham-Hicks.

A Course in Miracles is simply a copyrighted book. Numerous books, newsletters, study groups, conventions, and even what I'd call an absolute cult (in Wisconsin) have grown up around it. That's why I'm saying, best to just stick with the source if you want to understand ACIM for what it is. That said, it is helpful for most people to study with others. Ken Wapnik (I linked him above) was involved with ACIM from the beginning and has the most authentic insights into it.

I'm just trying to clear up what seems to be a misperception that Renard's book and ACIM are one and the same.

[_Crog]

Mrs MacEvil,

1) The fact is that the writers of ACIM said she was directly visited by the personage of Jesus.
2) the original manuscript is not copywriten. Many changes have been made to the copywriten version spurred by ken wapnic...

If the original comes from Jesus.... Who does the ken wapnic version com from? ? ? Significant changes!

3) this stuff has been going on since Edgar Cayece! Who the original ACIM author was a believer in.

4) ACIM is rehashed, polished, remarketed early 19th century Christian science with added filler! ! !
The esoteric/psychic....student/teacher scam has been around since gypsies have told fortunes...
Just like the "secret" rhonda byrnes did what ken wapnic did! Ken was able to work with the original authors/scribe.... To bad Helen and her husband messed up and the original course is free to the public...

Another money making scheme from the esoteric/psychic goons! The proof being the differences in the two manuscripts!

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

Mrs MacEvil,

1) The fact is that the writers of ACIM said she was directly visited by the personage of Jesus.
2) the original manuscript is not copywriten. Many changes have been made to the copywriten version spurred by ken wapnic...

If the original comes from Jesus.... Who does the ken wapnic version com from? ? ? Significant changes!

3) this stuff has been going on since Edgar Cayece! Who the original ACIM author was a believer in.

4) ACIM is rehashed, polished, remarketed early 19th century Christian science with added filler! ! !
The esoteric/psychic....student/teacher scam has been around since gypsies have told fortunes...
Just like the "secret" rhonda byrnes did what ken wapnic did! Ken was able to work with the original authors/scribe.... To bad Helen and her husband messed up and the original course is free to the public...

Another money making scheme from the esoteric/psychic goons! The proof being the differences in the two manuscripts!

Well, Crog, seems like you have some definite opinions on the subject and I'm not here to argue with them. The Course needs no defense. How the Course came to be (which is expressed as channeling from Jesus) is irrelevant to its message. I'll just say that the ideas in ACIM stand on their own. If they are helpful, use and benefit from them.

[_Crog]

Lol... irrelevant? ? ? ... Wow..

No wonder Obama still has fallowers! Lieing does not matter anymore... It's the message not the substance... Market stupidity well... And everyone is buying it! Wow, humans are devolving!
. Man, i am going to pot a rock in a hat and come up with my own religion! Because as JSjr new, there are a lot of idiots that will part with their money!

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

Lol... irrelevant? ? ? ... Wow..

No wonder Obama still has fallowers! Lieing does not matter anymore... It's the message not the substance... Market stupidity well... And everyone is buying it! Wow, humans are devolving!
. Man, i am going to pot a rock in a hat and come up with my own religion! Because as JSjr new, there are a lot of idiots that will part with their money!

This is like trying to talk to a drunk. You have a nice day, Crog.

[_Crog]

Really? You have nothing and you resort to direct insults..., lol did i rain on your quantum reality of ACIM and your political deity..? . Lol...

Mrs MacEvil, my points are direct and substancial to the topic... how immature you are! Call me a name... Put your fingers in your ears... And walk away! Probably because you are so attached and have invested so much into ACIM... and probably your little world savior, Obama! Lol... Keep goosestepin to his beat there mrs MacEvil!

[Guest]

Really? You have nothing and you resort to direct insults..., lol did i rain on your quantum reality of ACIM and your political deity..? . Lol...

Mrs MacEvil, my points are direct and substancial to the topic... how immature you are! Call me a name... Put your fingers in your ears... And walk away! Probably because you are so attached and have invested so much into ACIM... and probably your little world savior, Obama! Lol... Keep goosestepin to his beat there mrs MacEvil!

Having a bad day?

[_Crog]

Really? You have nothing and you resort to direct insults..., lol did i rain on your quantum reality of ACIM and your political deity..? . Lol...

Mrs MacEvil, my points are direct and substancial to the topic... how immature you are! Call me a name... Put your fingers in your ears... And walk away! Probably because you are so attached and have invested so much into ACIM... and probably your little world savior, Obama! Lol... Keep goosestepin to his beat there mrs MacEvil!

You're coming off as a total asshole. Having a bad day?

Wax Michael,

Did you see the insult?

Do you like to have people infer that you are a drunk! I made a simple statement about message over substance along with a example and i got an assault on my charecter!

no one ever assaulted Clints character and got away with it! Didn't he rape a girl in a movie for assaulting his character... I an not the biggest Clint fan so maybe he raped her for some other reason? What was it? ? ?

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

Really? You have nothing and you resort to direct insults..., lol did i rain on your quantum reality of ACIM and your political deity..? . Lol...

Mrs MacEvil, my points are direct and substancial to the topic... how immature you are! Call me a name... Put your fingers in your ears... And walk away! Probably because you are so attached and have invested so much into ACIM... and probably your little world savior, Obama! Lol... Keep goosestepin to his beat there mrs MacEvil!

You're coming off as a total asshole. Having a bad day?

Michael, have you read more after The Disappearance of the Universe?

[_Michael]

Michael, have you read more after The Disappearance of the Universe?

I'm still reading Disappearance of the Universe. I also bought a copy of ACIM and will read after finishing. I admittedly have a strong resistance to the supernatural since resigning from the church recently. This guy claiming visits from 2 personages casts a huge shadow on the author's credibility and motives in my mind. With that said, the message of the book is interesting and even inspiring. While going through the huge faith crisis with the church, my wife and I developed our own ideas and this book expresses many of them. I love the book while at the same time separating the message from the claims of the messenger.