Current GA Being Accused of Child Abuse; the 12 Ignore It

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Re: Current GA Being Accused of Child Abuse; the 12 Ignore I

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Jersey Girl wrote:No you haven't you crappy little bastard. :lol:


Jersey Girl, I think this might be just a little harsh. I am sure that MG has stated in a past post that his parents were married. Oh, but maybe they weren't married to each other, so it may still apply. :eek:
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Jersey Girl wrote:
How is it a net positive?


That it is not unreasonable to consider plates playing a part in the 'coming forth' narrative of the Book of Mormon.

Jersey Girl wrote:Even if they are fake?


The fact that two respected scholars are open, as a result of looking at the available evidence, to plates playing a part in the Book of Mormon narrative. i.e. -Protection/hiding of the plates and all the other stuff that's part of the narrative...leads a believer...as I've already said, to a position of not having to throw the plates out of the narrative. In other words's, something may have been going there...with plates.

Fake or not.

That's pretty much all I was sayin'. :smile:

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Jersey Girl wrote:How is it a net positive?


Do you want to help me out beyond what I've already said?

My brain hurts. :smile:

I want to go watch Merlin on Netflix...

Can we wrap this up? I think that I've laid it out earlier in my rather LONG post that I was not lying over and over again. In point of fact, I didn't lie at all. I clarified a point that was a bit fuzzy. I worked with Lemmie...up to a point. And then, well...

What's the answer I should be giving? :wink:

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mental gymnast, STILL MISREPERESENTING wrote:So...the fact that we have Vogel and Quinn both leaning towards plates I see as an evidence, of a sort, that there were plates involved in the narrative of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon.

I saw that as a net positive. Nothing wrong with that, right?


I don't even have to cut and paste mg's lies. He brings his lies right to this thread.

I only need to repeat argument three, as mental gymnast makes this his SIXTH TIME misrepresenting Dan Vogel.
Lemmie wrote:You are 'not so deftly avoiding,' for the [SIXTH] time, the statement that "Dan Vogel believes that Joseph made fake plates."

In no way is it appropriate to fold his assessment into a statement that conflates it with witnesses thinking there were plates. It is misleading and inaccurate.


This is mentalgymnasts's style. He has concluded that if he repeats and repeats and repeats his misrepresentations, at some point, he can slip a lie past someone, and if no one objects, he can argue, 'but everyone agrees!'

Edited to add, do I believe my eyes? I cannot believe mental gymnast just put MISREPRESENTATION SEVEN:
mentalgymnast, seventh time misrepresenting same data wrote:The fact that two respected scholars are open, as a result of looking at the available evidence, to plates playing a part in the Book of Mormon narrative.

How can he possibly write a lie like this?
Unbelievable.
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Tator wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:No you haven't you s****y little bastard. :lol:


Jersey Girl, I think this might be just a little harsh. I am sure that MG has stated in a past post that his parents were married. Oh, but maybe they weren't married to each other, so it may still apply. :eek:


This kind of stuff is getting old...

No need for it. I guess you do this kind of stuff because you know it won't be returned in kind?

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Congratulations! You've just succeeded in bringing new understanding into the world!

Now the placenta.

Just take your time and try to relax. Take a cleansing breath, let it out. Now take a deep breath and slowly and gently, bear down. It's gonna be a breeze, I promise!


mentalgymnast wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
How is it a net positive?


That it is not unreasonable to consider plates playing a part in the 'coming forth' narrative of the Book of Mormon.

Jersey Girl wrote:Even if they are fake?


The fact that two respected scholars are open, as a result of looking at the available evidence, to plates playing a part in the Book of Mormon narrative. i.e. -Protection/hiding of the plates and all the other stuff that's part of the narrative...leads a believer...as I've already said, to a position of not having to throw the plates out of the narrative. In other words's, something may have been going there...with plates.

Fake or not.

That's pretty much all I was sayin''. :smile:

Regards,
MG


The one and only problem you have in the above, is that you're insulting the crap out of every LDS true believer when you imply that they are willing to hang on to the truth of their testimony so long as something was happening with plates, whether they were fake or not.

p.s. I'm changing my specialty from dentistry to midwifery. Charting to follow.
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mentalgymnast wrote:This kind of stuff is getting old...


So is your rinse and repeat......
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mentalgymnast wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
How is it a net positive?


That it is not unreasonable to consider plates playing a part in the 'coming forth' narrative of the Book of Mormon.

Jersey Girl wrote:Even if they are fake?


The fact that two respected scholars are open, as a result of looking at the available evidence, to plates playing a part in the Book of Mormon narrative. i.e. -Protection/hiding of the plates and all the other stuff that's part of the narrative...leads a believer...as I've already said, to a position of not having to throw the plates out of the narrative. In other words's, something may have been going there...with plates.

Fake or not.

That's pretty much all I was sayin''. :smile:

Regards,
MG


MG:

If one of the possible scenarios is that the plates were fake as you seem to be saying, do you believe that God intentionally misled with fake plates to promote faith? Is the incredible and unbelievable plates story merely just a test of our faith? Is believing in a more fraudulent looking story an even better test of our faith?
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Lemmie wrote:How can he possibly write a lie like this?
Unbelievable.


Believe it.

I don't know what else I can do or say to change your views on whether or not I'm being up front, honest, and telling the truth.

I suppose you went back and read my rather LONG transcript of our earlier conversation?

I didn't lie. I may have been unclear...for you... and had to go back and rewrite/explain something I said. I think that you are misconstruing what I said and have some sort of a blindspot. I hope that all this stuff going back between Jersey and me can help you understand that I do not have some kind of 'lying disposition". I really don't know how I can or would be able to convince you of this at this point.

I've tried.

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Exiled wrote:MG:

If one of the possible scenarios is that the plates were fake as you seem to be saying, do you believe that God intentionally misled with fake plates to promote faith? Is the incredible and unbelievable plates story merely just a test of our faith? Is believing in a more fraudulent looking story an even better test of our faith?


I would, no surprise, default to the plates being real. That is, if I have to make a choice. And well, I do, because it can't go both ways. :smile:

If there were plates...they were either 'real', as in gold plates from a stone box delivered by and angel...or they were fake.

I choose real.

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