Impeachment hearings

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EAllusion wrote:There’s a ton of major developments breaking at the moment that are in the “my God” range. It’s always worse than you thought with this admin. Always.


I really want to know what favors he was caught handing out to autocrats and dictators. Mafioso, indeed.

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So can any of you articulate, granting for the time that Trump is completely guilty of the impeachment articles, what is the standard for a National Security Advisor to break with Presidential privilege? Or is it just an intuitive thing.

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mikwut wrote:So can any of you articulate, granting for the time that Trump is completely guilty of the impeachment articles, what is the standard for a National Security Advisor to break with Presidential privilege? Or is it just an intuitive thing.



You go first.
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As if the Trump defense were not already silly enough, Alan Dershowitz, a member of President Trump's legal team, cited Harvard Law Professor Nikolas Bowie as a scholar who supports the argument that abuse of power doesn't warrant impeachment. Bowie told CNN's Anderson Cooper and Jeffrey Toobin that Dershowitz is wrong. #CNN #News. Doesn't that just take the cake? Dershowitz even tried to argue that the fact that he thinks he can find support for his position in a quote by a professor who claims he is flat out wrong only further strengthens his own position!

If I were guilty of a crime I wanted to get away with scot free, I guess Dershowitz would probably be a good choice for defense attorney. Donald Trump would probably not be the first guilty person Dershowitz managed to get acquitted. Remember he was also one of the attorneys defending O.J. Simpson.
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The fact that I haven't read or heard of anyone on the Right raise a ruckus that Trump employed the lawyer who repped Epstein is outrageous. I can only imagine had Obama used Epstein as legal counsel what kind of meltdown they'd be having. It'd be endless chatter forever about it.

Anyway.

Whatever.

Nevermind.

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mikwut wrote:So can any of you articulate, granting for the time that Trump is completely guilty of the impeachment articles, what is the standard for a National Security Advisor to break with Presidential privilege? Or is it just an intuitive thing.

mikwut


Presidential privilege isn't a thing. If you mean executive privilege, this is not all how that works even in the instances in which it is an articulated principle. Bolton isn't breaking with executive privilege. So you're gonna have to be more specific about what you are talking about.
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EAllusion wrote:So you're gonna have to be more specific about what you are talking about.

What? And not be so vague that people roll their eyes and ignore him so he can then claim nobody wants to engage or have a substantive discussion?

I'm not sure milkwut does specific.
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Big win for Team Corruption with no witnesses. Now Team Corruption just needs to ignore 100% of the accumulated evidence and declare Trump not guilty.
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Ironic is when a lot of dudes who voted that lying about a blow job in the oval office rises to impeachable, but soliciting a bribe in the form of foreign meddling in our election, isn't.

The GOP has abandoned any pretense of ethics.
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mikwut wrote:So can any of you articulate, granting for the time that Trump is completely guilty of the impeachment articles, what is the standard for a National Security Advisor to break with Presidential privilege? Or is it just an intuitive thing.

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Considering John Dean was working with Senate investigators while still Nixon's attorney and testified less than two months after being fired by Nixon let's assume zero days. Call it intuitive but it seems like privilege - attorney/client, executive, or whathaveyou - isn't under an obligation to extend for any length of time past the point Congress wants to hear from them. As to Bolton making statements, it seems the standard is only until the Senate declines to take interest in what said person knows that they view to be in the interest of the nation. You know, the new standard where feelings one holds regarding ones own value to the nation Trump's rule of law and justifies ones actions regardless of what they are? That standard?
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