EAllusion wrote:There’s a ton of major developments breaking at the moment that are in the “my God” range. It’s always worse than you thought with this admin. Always.
I really want to know what favors he was caught handing out to autocrats and dictators. Mafioso, indeed.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
So can any of you articulate, granting for the time that Trump is completely guilty of the impeachment articles, what is the standard for a National Security Advisor to break with Presidential privilege? Or is it just an intuitive thing.
mikwut
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mikwut wrote:So can any of you articulate, granting for the time that Trump is completely guilty of the impeachment articles, what is the standard for a National Security Advisor to break with Presidential privilege? Or is it just an intuitive thing.
If I were guilty of a crime I wanted to get away with scot free, I guess Dershowitz would probably be a good choice for defense attorney. Donald Trump would probably not be the first guilty person Dershowitz managed to get acquitted. Remember he was also one of the attorneys defending O.J. Simpson.
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“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
The fact that I haven't read or heard of anyone on the Right raise a ruckus that Trump employed the lawyer who repped Epstein is outrageous. I can only imagine had Obama used Epstein as legal counsel what kind of meltdown they'd be having. It'd be endless chatter forever about it.
Anyway.
Whatever.
Nevermind.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
mikwut wrote:So can any of you articulate, granting for the time that Trump is completely guilty of the impeachment articles, what is the standard for a National Security Advisor to break with Presidential privilege? Or is it just an intuitive thing.
mikwut
Presidential privilege isn't a thing. If you mean executive privilege, this is not all how that works even in the instances in which it is an articulated principle. Bolton isn't breaking with executive privilege. So you're gonna have to be more specific about what you are talking about.
Ironic is when a lot of dudes who voted that lying about a blow job in the oval office rises to impeachable, but soliciting a bribe in the form of foreign meddling in our election, isn't.
The GOP has abandoned any pretense of ethics.
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mikwut wrote:So can any of you articulate, granting for the time that Trump is completely guilty of the impeachment articles, what is the standard for a National Security Advisor to break with Presidential privilege? Or is it just an intuitive thing.
mikwut
Considering John Dean was working with Senate investigators while still Nixon's attorney and testified less than two months after being fired by Nixon let's assume zero days. Call it intuitive but it seems like privilege - attorney/client, executive, or whathaveyou - isn't under an obligation to extend for any length of time past the point Congress wants to hear from them. As to Bolton making statements, it seems the standard is only until the Senate declines to take interest in what said person knows that they view to be in the interest of the nation. You know, the new standard where feelings one holds regarding ones own value to the nation Trump's rule of law and justifies ones actions regardless of what they are? That standard?
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