Shulem Cracked the Book of Mormon Code, the Land of Nephi is now revealed! See for yourself! The Golden Key!

[MG 2.0]

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ikr

Our friend is here. Be nice. But if he doesn't READ the thread then he should leave the thread and not make ignorant comments.

If the comments I make are in any way, shape, or form ‘ignorant’ then just let them go. They’ll fall under their own weight.

No worries.

I’ve picked up books and read parts of articles…and threads…that I haven’t completed because they, at face value, seem to have concerns that seem to be overwhelmingly in their disfavor or they lack enough substance to hold my interest. I’m sure you’ve experienced the same.

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

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ikr

Our friend is here. Be nice. But if he doesn't READ the thread then he should leave the thread and not make ignorant comments.

You are too kind, Shulem. : D

[Shulem]

I don’t think it will go beyond this board. And if you’re simply talking to nonmembers, then no harm no foul. On the other hand, folks that see a disjointed narrative in your theory (and it is) and have other reasons to believe…Chiasmus…answer to prayers, etc., won’t find your theory overwhelmingly convincing. Or dangerous.

Read the thread, MG. If you do you will learn that it has and will go beyond this board. And nonmembers will tune right into the message and quickly come to terms that the Book of Mormon is fiction and accept the Delmarva geography as the right one in which Smith envisioned in his book. You don't need prayers and Chiasmus to come to terms that Delmarva was the Promised land in which Smith neglected to name for personal security sake. Many members of the Church will learn about it and begin to ask questions. The Church will become further divided in its beliefs of Book of Mormon geography.

Having visions of grandeur are we?

I have no problem with your speculations. They are interesting. I’m not in any way trying to stop you. I mean, gosh, there are a ‘few’ active and believing members of the church that have their opinions on Book of Mormon geography.

Why not you?

Certainly not any more grandeur than Smith had. Look, you don't have any problem with my speculations BECAUSE you have not read them.

Read the thread and qualify yourself to the work. Otherwise, well, I'll just have to ignore you because you're not informed or keeping up.

[Shulem]

If the comments I make are in any way, shape, or form ‘ignorant’ then just let them go. They’ll fall under their own weight.

No worries.

I’ve picked up books and read parts of articles…and threads…that I haven’t completed because they, at face value, seem to have concerns that seem to be overwhelmingly in their disfavor or they lack enough substance to hold my interest. I’m sure you’ve experienced the same.

It would be the polite thing to do if you'd read the thread before jumping in and drawing conclusions and making general statements about things you have not grasped or understood. If you read the thread then you will understand and then you may comment and be appreciated. Otherwise, go to another thread, please. This thread is for the informed! Ignorance is no excuse here. All you have to do is read it.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

All you have to do is read it.

[Philo Sofee]

All you have to do is read it.

I see what you did there....very, VERY clever! I give you a 10.

[MG 2.0]

Look, you don't have any problem with my speculations BECAUSE you have not read them.

Read the thread and qualify yourself to the work. Otherwise, well, I'll just have to ignore you because you're not informed or keeping up.

I honestly don’t mind if you ignore me.

What I want to make clear is that yes, I kept up with this thread when it began and for a while thereafter the last time I popped into DM. Then I let it go. When I popped back in, I perused here and there throughout the rest of the thread. Granted, if I was a nonbeliever or non member I might find your theory of more interest. The thing is, as a believer I find your geography setting somewhat unreasonable when considering a number of ‘hits’ that Brant Gardner has targeted and gone into great detail in his writings/books. The Book of Mormon located in the real world of the time.

If your geography meshed with the other internal ‘goings on’ of the Book of Mormon I’d be likely to give it a close HARD look as a reasonably informed member of the church.

Your audience of nonmembers and uninformed members are your target audience. I’m just saying that you’ll never get beyond the nonmembers and uninformed members of record on this board. To think otherwise is wishful thinking.

I don’t expect to see your theory published in BYU Studies anytime soon.

Regards,
MG

[Moksha]

Anyway, how does your geography dovetail with the archaeological record in the Northeast and the Atlantic seaboard? Does it attest to and fit in with a pre-Columbian civilization anything like that portrayed in the Book of Mormon, with its extensive agriculture, written language, and large population centers housing hundreds of thousands of individuals?

Regards,
MG

MG, as you know, there are no explicit archeological findings for the Nephite civilization because it is fictional. The best that can be claimed as a match is that everything happened in a parallel dimension. Beyond that, you have to turn to the absurd such as a group of 16th Century bards doing translations in between flagons of mead, with a people who spoke proto-Ugaritic-Esperanto.

Geographically, the Delmarva Peninsula seems the clear winner.

[MG 2.0]

Anyway, how does your geography dovetail with the archaeological record in the Northeast and the Atlantic seaboard? Does it attest to and fit in with a pre-Columbian civilization anything like that portrayed in the Book of Mormon, with its extensive agriculture, written language, and large population centers housing hundreds of thousands of individuals?

Regards,
MG

MG, as you know, there are no explicit archeological findings for the Nephite civilization because it is fictional. The best that can be claimed as a match is that everything happened in a parallel dimension. Beyond that, you have to turn to the absurd such as a group of 16th Century bards doing translations in between flagons of mead, with a people who spoke proto-Ugaritic-Esperanto.

Geographically, the Delmarva Peninsula seems the clear winner.

Only if you have a predetermined belief that the Book of Mormon is fictional. Otherwise the Delmarva theory has some issues and doesn’t have a clean bill of health. Not a clear winner. You are compartmentalizing. IF this THEN this. Without looking at the larger body of evidence.

I’m sure that you’re not only aware of Brant Gardner’s writings but have read enough to know that he would take issue with the first sentence of your post. You are putting the cart before the horse. The Book of Mormon is a priori fictional therefore we can’t expect that the internal narrative in the Book of Mormon can correlate with the actual world in real time and space.

Regards,
MG

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

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Please produce just one Nephite archaeological item.

Anyway.

> I haven’t read the thread

> here’s my uninformed opinion of the thread’s material

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