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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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Binger wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:43 pm
dastardly stem wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:23 pm


Politics aside, what is your association with Mormonism? How do you view the religion?
Born and raised in it. RM, BYU, Temple Marriage, High Priest, full tithing, all that. I have 13 siblings, 6 are in, 7 are out. My family joined the church in Switzerland, Australia and Scotland, others joined somewhere between Ohio and Missouri. My family developed many of the towns in Utah and donated a HUGE chunk of the land to create what is now Utah State University. My family developed parts of SLC. We still have land that is used for Ag research by Utah State University. My family's monument in the cemetery at USU is a prominent one. My ancestors also brought the first red angus to Utah.

I see the religion as a business. Its primary purpose is to increase the wealth of its shareholder. The doctrine and policies are in place to entertain or hook adherents with the purpose of maximizing wealth across all business disciplines, including but not limited to the value of its not for profit that is in the religion business.

I see Mormonism differently, and feel like the motherland and heritage of the religion has been ripped away and lost. What should be a proud and diverse community, is fractured and, in my opinion, not salvageable. It has divided among adherents, and then within those sides, factions are in place to incite more divisiveness along political lines. The anti/ex crowd is just an extension of what was happening on the inside, but with different organizers.

I am proud AF to be a Mormon. I respect the work my family did in the frontier and journey. Their adventures were solid. They were imperfect. They followed and led imperfect people. They were flawed, and, they were family. They fought. They died. They went bananas and left the country to form polygamy sects in Mexico that still exist. They were as diverse as any family could be. And Mormonism somehow was a bind.
That was very interesting, thanks. I knew there was a real person in there somewhere.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:24 pm
Atlanticmike wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:16 pm
… the miserable choices you have made.

There’s the problem, again.

Define what you want to call out as the ‘miserable choices’ of others. Tell why you believe those choices are miserable.

Otherwise, you’re just name-calling at best, in the same way you’d accuse others as doing.
Atlanticmike wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:19 pm
No duh dip crap!!! That’s because this board is an orgy of progressive thought. …

Same problem, again.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:24 pm
Atlanticmike wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:16 pm
… the miserable choices you have made.

There’s the problem, again.

Define what you want to call out as the ‘miserable choices’ of others. Tell why you believe those choices are miserable.

Otherwise, you’re just name-calling at best, in the same way you’d accuse others as doing.
Atlanticmike wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:19 pm
No duh dip crap!!! That’s because this board is an orgy of progressive thought. …

Same problem, again.
No! The problem is, Trump bad, Mormons bad, conservatives bad, ajax18 bad, Daniel Peterson bad, and anything you don’t agree with is bad. And there’s no tolerance for an opinion that doesn't mesh with the progressive narrative found here at Discuss Mormonism.

You’re upset because I’m pointing to the obvious and you can’t handle the truth!
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dastardly stem wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:39 pm
Binger wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:43 pm


Born and raised in it. RM, BYU, Temple Marriage, High Priest, full tithing, all that. I have 13 siblings, 6 are in, 7 are out. My family joined the church in Switzerland, Australia and Scotland, others joined somewhere between Ohio and Missouri. My family developed many of the towns in Utah and donated a HUGE chunk of the land to create what is now Utah State University. My family developed parts of SLC. We still have land that is used for Ag research by Utah State University. My family's monument in the cemetery at USU is a prominent one. My ancestors also brought the first red angus to Utah.

I see the religion as a business. Its primary purpose is to increase the wealth of its shareholder. The doctrine and policies are in place to entertain or hook adherents with the purpose of maximizing wealth across all business disciplines, including but not limited to the value of its not for profit that is in the religion business.

I see Mormonism differently, and feel like the motherland and heritage of the religion has been ripped away and lost. What should be a proud and diverse community, is fractured and, in my opinion, not salvageable. It has divided among adherents, and then within those sides, factions are in place to incite more divisiveness along political lines. The anti/ex crowd is just an extension of what was happening on the inside, but with different organizers.

I am proud AF to be a Mormon. I respect the work my family did in the frontier and journey. Their adventures were solid. They were imperfect. They followed and led imperfect people. They were flawed, and, they were family. They fought. They died. They went bananas and left the country to form polygamy sects in Mexico that still exist. They were as diverse as any family could be. And Mormonism somehow was a bind.
That was very interesting, thanks. I knew there was a real person in there somewhere.
Anytime.
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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Atlanticmike wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:43 pm
No! The problem is, Trump bad, Mormons bad, conservatives bad, ajax18 bad, Daniel Peterson bad, and anything you don’t agree with is bad. And there’s no tolerance for an opinion that doesn't mesh with the progressive narrative found here at Discuss Mormonism.

You’re upset because I’m pointing to the obvious and you can’t handle the truth!
Atlanticmike, what is the "progressive narrative" you seem to infer from every post?
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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Atlanticmike wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:36 pm
Did I break a rule “moderator “ ? Ivan show you where one of your best friends posted a spirit prison post here in the terrestrial and no one has removed it yet😂

Hey moderator!! Since you haven’t removed Doc Cams spirit prison post he posted here in the terrestrial, does that mean we can call posters a Pword here in the terrestrial now? Can we call each other a deballed cockolded coward? Can we talk about nuts being ascending and having another poster grabbing them and pulling them back down? Because you “the moderator “ leaving his spirit prison post here in the terrestrial says we can do exactly the same, correct?? Or are the rules different for me since I’m not on the “inside”?

Have you reported any posts?

Do you know how Shades has designed the board to function? Do you understand the tools available to you if you have an issue? Or did you need for me to be an activist who scans the board and proactively protects you from the hurtful words of the evil ‘PROGRESSIVES’, or whomever else you don’t like?

You’ve had this conversation with the moderator team before, right? You know what to do. And you also know that Shades has a pretty liberal attitude about exchanges and what ‘needs’ to be moved. If I followed your stated standards, I’d have to move at least three-quarters of your own posts into other kingdoms.

Is that what you want?

And in the midst of that, you’re still deciding to just fall back on the same old routine: insult folks, then complain about someone else’s insults.

Atlanticmike wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:43 pm
No! The problem is, Trump bad, Mormons bad, conservatives bad, ajax18 bad, Daniel Peterson bad, and anything you don’t agree with is bad. And there’s no tolerance for an opinion that doesn't mesh with the progressive narrative found here at Discuss Mormonism.

You’re upset because I’m pointing to the obvious and you can’t handle the truth!

The ‘upset’ person here seems to be you, as you’re tossing a fit because not every person here agrees with your opinions about stuff.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:53 pm
Have you reported any posts?
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Binger wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:58 pm
canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:53 pm
Have you reported any posts?
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Same for you.

And both of you realize that not every report will be acted on in your (or anyone’s) particular favor, depending on a number of factors.

But you should at least start with that. If you have issues with the board and its rules, you can always tell Shades why he’s wrong.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:10 pm
Binger wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:58 pm


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Same for you.

And both of you realize that not every report will be acted on in your (or anyone’s) particular favor, depending on a number of factors.

But you should at least start with that. If you have issues with the board and its rules, you can always tell Shades why he’s wrong.
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No worries, Binger. If you have no respect for the board as Shades has set it up, then that seems to be a problem that you share with very few others. But it’s still your problem, and not everyone else’s to fix for you.
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