Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:16 pm
No worries, Binger. If you have no respect for the board as Shades has set it up, then that seems to be a problem that you share with very few others. But it’s still your problem, and not everyone else’s to fix for you.
Here you go again. Making assumptions and conclusions from whatever just falls out your ass.

I have huge respect for Shades and the board. I have zero respect for you, because you incessantly post and moderate with comments like this one. And, it ain't my problem. And nobody has to fix a damn thing. Unlike Atlanticmike who has an equally valid and meaningful position on this, I think surrendering is a healthy and centered move. It is not submitting. I surrender to the fact that you will always make assumptions like this, and moderate accordingly, and comment accordingly. I fully accept those conditions.

Everybody is free to carry on, and post pictures of Daniel C. Peterson wearing a clown nose, flippers and a seersucker mankini while voting for Trump at the LDS Seminary polling station. What you ain't free to do, is convince everyone that what you are doing is not what you are doing.
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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Binger wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:32 pm
canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:16 pm
No worries, Binger. If you have no respect for the board as Shades has set it up, then that seems to be a problem that you share with very few others. But it’s still your problem, and not everyone else’s to fix for you.
Here you go again. Making assumptions and conclusions from whatever just falls out your ass.

I have huge respect for Shades and the board. I have zero respect for you, because you incessantly post and moderate with comments like this one. And, it ain't my problem. And nobody has to fix a damn thing. Unlike Atlanticmike who has an equally valid and meaningful position on this, I think surrendering is a healthy and centered move. It is not submitting. I surrender to the fact that you will always make assumptions like this, and moderate accordingly, and comment accordingly. I fully accept those conditions.

Everybody is free to carry on, and post pictures of Daniel C. Peterson wearing a clown nose, flippers and a seersucker mankini while voting for Trump at the LDS Seminary polling station. What you ain't free to do, is convince everyone that what you are doing is not what you are doing.
Binger -

Your opinion is yours to have. The posting history of both of us speaks to how valid either of our opinions are, in the eyes of others.
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It’s sad watching serious posters here waste their time trying to explain that conservatism is not the opposite side of ex-Mormonism.

Conservatism and playing the victim is a much more important religious belief for them than Mormonism itself. They’re not even engaging on Mormon topics, they’re just constantly trying to turn this into a left/right debate board.
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:43 pm
Binger wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:32 pm


Here you go again. Making assumptions and conclusions from whatever just falls out your ass.

I have huge respect for Shades and the board. I have zero respect for you, because you incessantly post and moderate with comments like this one. And, it ain't my problem. And nobody has to fix a damn thing. Unlike Atlanticmike who has an equally valid and meaningful position on this, I think surrendering is a healthy and centered move. It is not submitting. I surrender to the fact that you will always make assumptions like this, and moderate accordingly, and comment accordingly. I fully accept those conditions.

Everybody is free to carry on, and post pictures of Daniel C. Peterson wearing a clown nose, flippers and a seersucker mankini while voting for Trump at the LDS Seminary polling station. What you ain't free to do, is convince everyone that what you are doing is not what you are doing.
Binger -

Your opinion is yours to have. The posting history of both of us speaks to how valid either of our opinions are, in the eyes of others.
No, it absolutely does not speak to that. That is an absurd twisted pretzel of words and bad logic.

Your opinion is not validated by a damn thing. It is just like, your opinion, man.
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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drumdude wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:52 pm
It’s sad watching serious posters here waste their time trying to explain that conservatism is not the opposite side of ex-Mormonism.

Conservatism and playing the victim is a much more important religious belief for them than Mormonism itself. They’re not even engaging on Mormon topics, they’re just constantly trying to turn this into a left/right debate board.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:43 pm
Binger wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:32 pm


Here you go again. Making assumptions and conclusions from whatever just falls out your ass.

I have huge respect for Shades and the board. I have zero respect for you, because you incessantly post and moderate with comments like this one. And, it ain't my problem. And nobody has to fix a damn thing. Unlike Atlanticmike who has an equally valid and meaningful position on this, I think surrendering is a healthy and centered move. It is not submitting. I surrender to the fact that you will always make assumptions like this, and moderate accordingly, and comment accordingly. I fully accept those conditions.

Everybody is free to carry on, and post pictures of Daniel C. Peterson wearing a clown nose, flippers and a seersucker mankini while voting for Trump at the LDS Seminary polling station. What you ain't free to do, is convince everyone that what you are doing is not what you are doing.
Binger -

Your opinion is yours to have. The posting history of both of us speaks to how valid either of our opinions are, in the eyes of others.
This is so true! My wife thinks you’re nuckin futs, pancakes!😂
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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For those who have the trolls blocked, just a peek into the bizarro world of moderating them:
canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:53 pm
Have you reported any posts?

Do you know how Shades has designed the board to function? Do you understand the tools available to you if you have an issue? Or did you need for me to be an activist who scans the board and proactively protects you from the hurtful words of the evil ‘PROGRESSIVES’, or whomever else you don’t like?

You’ve had this conversation with the moderator team before, right? You know what to do. And you also know that Shades has a pretty liberal attitude about exchanges and what ‘needs’ to be moved. If I followed your stated standards, I’d have to move at least three-quarters of your own posts into other kingdoms.

Is that what you want?

And in the midst of that, you’re still deciding to just fall back on the same old routine: insult folks, then complain about someone else’s insults.

...The ‘upset’ person here seems to be you, as you’re tossing a fit because not every person here agrees with your opinions about stuff.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:10 pm
Same for you.

And both of you realize that not every report will be acted on in your (or anyone’s) particular favor, depending on a number of factors.

But you should at least start with that. If you have issues with the board and its rules, you can always tell Shades why he’s wrong.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:16 pm
No worries, Binger. If you have no respect for the board as Shades has set it up, then that seems to be a problem that you share with very few others. But it’s still your problem, and not everyone else’s to fix for you.

canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:43 pm
Binger -

Your opinion is yours to have. The posting history of both of us speaks to how valid either of our opinions are, in the eyes of others.
It reads like a very professional kindergarten teacher with an inhuman reserve of patience being very, very kind to a couple of extremely troubled children.

Oy ve, what it takes to moderate. :roll: Hang in there canpakes! : D
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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Atlanticmike wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:53 pm
So I thought I would start this thread to show you guys just how one sided this board is. So I always get posters asking me, hey, why do you act different then you did when posting on MDDB? That’s really easy to answer actually. Let me explain. Over on MDDB I was finally banned permanently for fussing with a group of ladies over transgender rights. I was thread banned over there at least once every two weeks. I would stand up for lgbt rights and get banned for taking it a little to far. I got thread banned once for saying the prophets need to lose the $3000 dollar suits and put on work clothes and act like real prophets by working like real prophets. I was thread banned once for saying the church is stupid for shutting down the kitchens inside the churches because they could be used to bring the community closer together. I was thread banned over there numerous times for saying removing the word Mormon from the Mormon vocabulary is a stupid idea. I was banned one time for a few days for posting that the prophets need to stop reading off of the teleprompter. I pointed out that since 1974, my birth year, not one general conference talk has been given without a stupid teleprompter, yep, got banned😂. And many many more examples....
As a comparison...
  1. I am more liberal than most people here. I think very highly of Karl Marx's ideas, and am sympathetic to Vladimir Lenin. I think Thomas Piketty is the greatest living economist.
  2. I am an outspoken atheist and anti-Mormon. My chariot follows the four horsemen of new atheism.
  3. I've made 2,649 posts on MDDB, where I've been posting since 2005.
  4. I've been thread-banned from MDDB about 3 times maybe? I would say once every five years is my average. I've never been banned.
My point is simply that MDDB doesn't ban you for being liberal or anti-Mormon. They ban you if you personally attack people and are a dick. But if you keep the discussion focused on ideas and aren't a dick, you can be an outspoken anti-Mormon there.

I think the same principle applies here. Symmachus is conservative and gets along fine. Don Bradley is a Mormon and everybody likes him. The truth is heterogeneous ideas are embraced here. All you have to do is make thoughtful posts, and then listen and think about what people say in response. Just don't be a dick.
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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Binger wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:57 pm
canpakes wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:43 pm
Binger -

Your opinion is yours to have. The posting history of both of us speaks to how valid either of our opinions are, in the eyes of others.
No, it absolutely does not speak to that. That is an absurd twisted pretzel of words and bad logic.
It sure does speak to that.

And, every post I’ve made over my time spent here is viewable by everyone.

You’re aren’t, because you’ve erased half of them. There’s a reason for that. ; )
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Re: Mormons, Trolls, & Progressives

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Analytics wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:28 pm
As a comparison...
  1. I am more liberal than most people here. I think very highly of Karl Marx's ideas, and am sympathetic to Vladimir Lenin. I think Thomas Piketty is the greatest living economist.
  2. I am an outspoken atheist and anti-Mormon. My chariot follows the four horsemen of new atheism.
  3. I've made 2,649 posts on MDDB, where I've been posting since 2005.
  4. I've been thread-banned from MDDB about 3 times maybe? I would say once every five years is my average. I've never been banned.
My point is simply that MDDB doesn't ban you for being liberal or anti-Mormon. They ban you if you personally attack people and are a dick. But if you keep the discussion focused on ideas and aren't a dick, you can be an outspoken anti-Mormon there.

I think the same principle applies here. Symmachus is conservative and gets along fine. Don Bradley is a Mormon and everybody likes him. The truth is heterogeneous ideas are embraced here. All you have to do is make thoughtful posts, and then listen and think about what people say in response. Just don't be a dick.
Good to get a more measured assessment of MDDB, thanks. I only briefly check in and out there, but that actually sounds like pretty reasonable moderation. I'll have to look in again.
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