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Ajax is still going on with this faux outrage over nothing. This is precisely what you'd expect from white supremacists.
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K Graham wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:40 am
Ajax is still going on with this faux outrage over nothing. This is precisely what you'd expect from white supremacists.
Knowing that your definition of white supremacy is that I only accept one answer to a math problem as correct, I'm not sure I see what you're calling me to be an insult. You might as well just call me a rational and objective person as opposed to a woke person.
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ajax18 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:27 pm
You might as well just call me a rational and objective person...
A rational and objective person with a Confederate General as an avatar.
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ajax18 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:27 pm
K Graham wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:40 am
Ajax is still going on with this faux outrage over nothing. This is precisely what you'd expect from white supremacists.
Knowing that your definition of white supremacy is that I only accept one answer to a math problem as correct, I'm not sure I see what you're calling me to be an insult. You might as well just call me a rational and objective person as opposed to a woke person.
I cannot imagine why you insist on reframing the suggestion that there can be more than one way to solve a math problem is the same thing as your substitution of there being ‘more than one answer’ to a math problem. Why do you insist on pushing that deception? You’ve been provided links to the teaching approach in question on several prior occasions, now.

If a customer of yours has a vision problem, is there more than one method available to give that patient the ‘correct’ vision? Yes, there is.
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So, to the OP. It takes some time to dig into, as it talks about evidence that has been "uncovered," mostly consisting of cherry picked quotes designed to inflame racially resentful white people. Most importantly, it doesn't place the organization it criticizes in any other context. So, here it is: https://www.nais.org This is a voluntary association of independent schools. Independent schools are a subset of all private schools. The difference is that they are governed by an independent board of governors and tend to have higher tuition.

The commonly cited figure for the total number of U.S. private schools is from the 2015-16 school year: about 34,500. the NAIS has about 1500 member schools in the U.S. So, we are talking about something about 4% of the schools in the U.S. And because these are private schools with smaller class sizes, it's reasonable to assume those schools educate an even smaller percentage of the population. And they aren't funded by taxpayer money. I'd wager there are more private school/home schooled students being taught young earth creationism (except make sure to recite the scientific lies on the standardized tests) than there are students attending independent schools who are members of the NAIS.

I dove into the Equitable Grading issue, since that one really seems to stick in Ajax's craw. Here's the introductory material and chapter of a book that discusses equitable grading. And, no Ajax, it doesn't involve giving stupid and/or lazy POC students a pass or giving out A's for 2+2=5. It involves what should be the completely noncontroversial goal of setting specific, concrete goals for what materials the students are expected to master and aligning grading practices to maximize the number of students that actually master the material.

The techniques described in the book are 100% familiar to me. My two oldest children were in a local private school with a very good reputation 20 years ago. And that school used the equitable grading practices discussed in the book: 4 point grading scale, written rubrics that described the material to be mastered and what the 4 point scale meant with respect to the level of mastery. The purpose was to give each student an equal opportunity to master the material.

If I have time, I'll dig into this a little more. But it looks like the typical Breitbart race-baiting theater of resentment. Ajax, how many times are you going to let Lucy jerk the football away at the last second and leave you lying on your back in the mud before you do some reading before trying to kick the football?
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ajax18 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:27 pm
K Graham wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:40 am
Ajax is still going on with this faux outrage over nothing. This is precisely what you'd expect from white supremacists.
Knowing that your definition of white supremacy is that I only accept one answer to a math problem as correct, I'm not sure I see what you're calling me to be an insult. You might as well just call me a rational and objective person as opposed to a woke person.
When have you been called a white supremacist because you claimed that there is only one right answer to some math problem?
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ajax18 wrote:
Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:54 pm
Morley that's I feel about the critical race theory being pushed upon kindergartners by the state in taxpayer funded compulsory schools. Have you read the original article? Have you watched the clips? We'll never agree on this. That's why I say we need a divorce due to irreconcilable differences.
The. Article. Was. Not. About. Compulsory. Tax. Funded. Schools.

You're working yourself up to a stroke over something the article doesn't say.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:46 pm
Funny. I thought you put a lot of stress on what your ancestors did.

The ancestors of those black people put in a huge amount of back-breaking work, for which they were not paid, to build up the economy of the country you live in today.

And yet you feel you owe them nothing.
How much do the modern day Italians owe you as an Englishman for the Germanic and Celtic people who were enslaved and forced to labor to help build up the economy of the Roman Empire? I assure you that this didn't take centuries and likely millenia to forget and move on from as does the case of Africans enslaved in the antebellum US.

Right now you can't even free yourselves of the European Unions demands that you support these southern European welfare states, let alone get some kind of reparations for past wrongs from them. What's going on in the US has nothing to do with history. It's just one group of people looking at another group who has more and trying to find a reason to take it.
What's going on in the U.S. has everything to do with history. But I guess we'll need a history thread to walk you through that.
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I'd love to know what ajax's real aim is for posting here. Does he think he's going to convince anyone of anything? Does he hope someone will say something to justify his views? Or is it being regularly insulted that let's him continue the narrative that he's a poor, persecuted soul for what he imagines are his righteous beliefs?

He's certainly not here to learn or discuss anything, assuming discussion includes actually considering what other people say.

I'd ask him, but I know I won't get an answer... not an honest one, anyway. He has embedded himself in a concrete slab of dishonesty and ignorance. Before I put him on ignore, every post I read of his became a game of Is He Lying or Just Wrong?
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Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:57 pm
I'd love to know what ajax's real aim is for posting here. Does he think he's going to convince anyone of anything? Does he hope someone will say something to justify his views?
There are (still!) guests who read this board, and I suspect he wants to influence them.

I have agreed with Ajax on occasions. And at least he is there to express and explain his views, rather than distract, disrupt and insult like AM.
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