Israel

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Well played, Putin. Still ain’t gonna save your ass for what’s coming, but well played for sure.

Do you think China might have a role in this?

No, I believe China wants to be a hegemonic power and doesn’t see much political advantage to getting involved in the Middle East.

(don’t be surprised if this spills over to all sorts of places fast].

- Doc

Here?

Well. Kind of. Terrorism stuff, sure. What I meant was Israel will probably hit targets in the west bank, golan heights, and Syria. Probably conduct covert ops in Jordan, Egypt, Iran, and the UAE - joint ops within the US and Europe. If Hamas’, and the rest’s, leadership go into hiding in places like Africa, South America, or Mexico then the Mossad will probably go after them there. They’re going to burn a lot of good will doing this, but they think they can get it done this time… I’m guessing.

Senator Graham, by the way, wants to level Gaza and invade Iran, so… probably the most dangerous man in America right now.

Putin wanted to sow discord in the world to fracture its political unity toward Ukraine. He got Iran to resource their proxies in and around Israel and strike, because Iran wants to, you know, wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. So, if we end up getting into a thing with Iran, I dunno. Who damned knows.

Biden, clever man that he is, is getting a one-and-done package done for Ukraine so whatever happens at least Ukraine should be supported for the next four or five years. *fingers crossed*

- Doc

[Dr. Shades]

Biden, clever man that he is, is getting a one-and-done package done for Ukraine so whatever happens at least Ukraine should be supported for the next four or five years. *fingers crossed*

How much will it cost the American taxpayer?

[Jersey Girl]

Do you think China might have a role in this?

No, I believe China wants to be a hegemonic power and doesn’t see much political advantage to getting involved in the Middle East.

Here?

Well. Kind of. Terrorism stuff, sure. What I meant was Israel will probably hit targets in the west bank, golan heights, and Syria. Probably conduct covert ops in Jordan, Egypt, Iran, and the UAE - joint ops within the US and Europe. If Hamas’, and the rest’s, leadership go into hiding in places like Africa, South America, or Mexico then the Mossad will probably go after them there. They’re going to burn a lot of good will doing this, but they think they can get it done this time… I’m guessing.

Senator Graham, by the way, wants to level Gaza and invade Iran, so… probably the most dangerous man in America right now.

Putin wanted to sow discord in the world to fracture its political unity toward Ukraine. He got Iran to resource their proxies in and around Israel and strike, because Iran wants to, you know, wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. So, if we end up getting into a thing with Iran, I dunno. Who damned knows.

Biden, clever man that he is, is getting a one-and-done package done for Ukraine so whatever happens at least Ukraine should be supported for the next four or five years. *fingers crossed*

- Doc

You somehow caught my post before I edited out the China bit. I don't have any follow up questions to what you posted because quite frankly, you understand military strategy better than I ever could so wrapping my head around this kind of thing comes slow to me.

Tell me why you think they are shoving the Gazans to the south.

Are they trying to force them on Egypt?

Or

Are they trying to pile them up in one place to make it more convenient to blast them off the planet?

They are trying to make them evacuate and relocate entire hospitals of patients. I don't get the feeling they care if the patients or citizens in general make it to the south or not. That's why I'm asking if they're simply corralling people into one place to exterminate all the Gazans, get them out of the way so they can occupy the territory.

And I thought I heard one commentator say that the what...Hamas brass (?) is in Q'tar so would they (the "owners" of Hamas) even care if there was an extermination of the Gazans?

And Cam I thought Iran was funding Hamas (and Russia was on their side which is why I originally posed the China question but now you're saying China's not invested in the ME) so what are they doing in Q'tar if that's even true? I thought the Arabs had a good relationship with Israel.

Be patient with me...I'm trying to learn. If you get sick of me asking questions just tell me and I'll shut it.

[Jersey Girl]

Oh and just let me get this out of my gut for one second. The Speaker of the House garbage. Just when we need a fully functioning government the national clown car is over there doing donuts in the parking lot.

k I feel better now. Not really.

[Res Ipsa]

Oh and just let me get this out of my gut for one second. The Speaker of the House garbage. Just when we need a fully functioning government the national clown car is over there doing donuts in the parking lot.

k I feel better now. Not really.

It was me that mentioned that the head honcho is in Qatar. I read it one of the Council on Foreign Relations Middle East for Dummies papers. It also said that many of the higher ups are in Turkey.

for what it's worth, I don’t think the plan is to kettle the civilians in the South and commit genocide. I suspect have some intelligence on Hamas facilities, infrastructure, tunnels, munitions, etc. and they are going to send troops in to destroy that stuff as well as kill every Hamas member they can find.

And I am totally with you on the House. We could easily end up at war, so it’s time to end the goat rodeo.

[Jersey Girl]

Oh and just let me get this out of my gut for one second. The Speaker of the House garbage. Just when we need a fully functioning government the national clown car is over there doing donuts in the parking lot.

k I feel better now. Not really.

It was me that mentioned that the head honcho is in Qatar. I read it one of the Council on Foreign Relations Middle East for Dummies papers. It also said that many of the higher ups are in Turkey.

I heard a commentator online say it. youtube. I don't know that I saw your post. I haven't read all the posts on this thread.

for what it's worth, I don’t think the plan is to kettle the civilians in the South and commit genocide. I suspect have some intelligence on Hamas facilities, infrastructure, tunnels, munitions, etc. and they are going to send troops in to destroy that stuff as well as kill every Hamas member they can find.

Okay. That makes some kind of sense to me but as I said, I don't know much about military strategies. But what if all the Gazans can't make it out of there? I think the UN itself said it was impossible to evacuate that many people in 24 hours time. The way Israel behaves doesn't make me think they'll extend the deadline.

And I am totally with you on the House. We could easily end up at war, so it’s time to end the goat rodeo.

Yeah, I know I have that much right. It's a nation disgrace and international embarrassment. They're messing around and we're easily burning daylight here with regard to Israel.

[Jersey Girl]

Posted on CNN. I'll investigate this tomorrow.

Hamas welcomes Russia's offer for mediation, praises Putin's position

Outrageous hypocrite.

[Dr. Shades]

I thought the Arabs had a good relationship with Israel.

Boy, do I have some geopolitical news for you, . . .

[ajax18]

As Vēritās said, even the vast majority of Palestinians strongly disapprove of what they have done.

Can you point to any specific statements of Palestinians or even Muslims expressing disapproval for the actions of Hamas?


Oh yeah, this was definitely an attack calculated to incite retaliation by Israel so that the Western media would once again align with Hamas.

When you talk about an apartheid state, let it be noted that 20% of Israel's population are Arabic. Sure they hate Israel, but for some reason they're unwilling to leave. How many Jews are permitted equal rights while living in Palestine or any other Muslim country for that matter?

We've often talked about hate speech, microagression. In Canada we've seen a man imprisoned for two years for refusing to use the pronouns he/him for his biological daughter. You run conservative speakers out of college campuses because you consider their views on socialism and taxation to be hate speech and unworthy of 1st amendment protections. Why is it that this standard for hate speech goes out the window when it comes to American-Palestinians chanting "Gas the Jews." Can you point me to anywhere that Aryan Nazis are permitted to make such calls to violence? It's kind of ironic that Germany could see another holocaust. Why, because everything the Nazis did is tolerated by liberals if it's what their coalition of Muslim immigrant voters demand.

[ajax18]

This has the potential to escalate very quickly once the Arab World decides to take action against the West for helping Israel kill Palestinians and others. Scary stuff.

Well played, Putin. Still ain’t gonna save your ass for what’s coming, but well played for sure.

- Doc

And look who gave Iran the cash to do all this. Even now Biden will not freeze Iranian assets. Thank you Barack Obama and thank you Valerie Jarrett. Thank you Barack for bringing people like O'Malley into your cabinet to spy for Iran. And above all, thank you to every Democrat voter for giving Obama the chance to do this.

Governor Romney the 1980s just called and wants their foreign policy back. We don't need money for national defense. That money needs to be spent on welfare! Peace through strength doesn't work. Only Obama's apology tour and coziness with the Muslim brotherhood will assuage their anger and calls for global jihad.