DCP Takes Aim at Everybody Wang Chung

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I think it’s pretty obvious Fleming didn’t just discover this board on a Reddit post.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:21 am
Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:14 am
In any case, when I view the MDD board, I see lots of real names, but here almost none. Hmm.
Is "Flemming" your real name?
I am not criticizing anonymity, just the statement that claims apologists are hypocrites for being anonymous when the primary apologist is not anonymous.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:06 pm
Can you explain that witticism for us folks who don’t think Moksha is funny? I really want to understand it in order to perhaps broaden my taste in obscure and unattainable comedy.

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drumdude wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:04 pm
I think it’s pretty obvious Fleming didn’t just discover this board on a Reddit post.
Oh my. You think?
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:21 pm
I am not criticizing anonymity, just the statement that claims apologists are hypocrites for being anonymous when the primary apologist is not anonymous.
That makes no sense. One LDS apologist has been mostly non-anonymous, therefore all LDS apologists are not hypocrites for being anonymous.

That's not even a complete thought, let alone an accurate reflection of anyone's argument.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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...In principle it's just as fallacious to agree with someone as to disagree with them, if you are agreeing because of who they are rather than because of what they are saying. People just don't complain about this one so much...
This is a huge problem. When a political party neighborhood rep in my small town passed away, I was asked to fill in for his last few months, until the next election cycle. All I had to do, they said, was attend a couple of meetings to vote as his proxy. At the first meeting I was handed a clipboard with a bunch of petitions and asked to sign. I said okay, give me a minute to read through them. The person said, "oh no, you don't have to do that--they are all OUR petitions. Just sign and pass the clipboard along so we can quickly get our signatures." :roll:

Sorry, no. As PG put it so well, that's also a fallacious argument.
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:21 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:21 am
Is "Flemming" your real name?
I am not criticizing anonymity, just the statement that claims apologists are hypocrites for being anonymous when the primary apologist is not anonymous.
Are we sure that the ‘primary apologist’ actually has been awarded that status? How was it determined? Is it because he’s often a focus of discussion here?

If I search for, say, YouTube videos by Brian Hales or Dan Peterson, I find many more from the former. Should that be the criteria for determining how we rank the ‘primary apologist’?

Anyhow, I’m still curious as to where you think you’re going with this, and (as Shades asked) if your actual name is Flemming. ; )
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:21 pm
I am not criticizing anonymity, just the statement that claims apologists are hypocrites for being anonymous when the primary apologist is not anonymous.
Poster Bought Yahoo made that point many times over. Pahoran would agree. They are not stalwarts like Moksha J. Penguin or Kish K. Umen.
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:05 am
Tapir Rodeo wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:35 am
Can you explain why my point was untrue and stupid?
I already did. Dan has posted under his real name for 20 years. His archived emails at places like FAIR and SHIELDS are under his real name. What is so hard to understand about this?

(Yes, apparently there were short time periods where he used Freethinker or Logic Chopper, but everyone knew it was him).
You really did miss the point. Dan posts under his real name but he complains when people use his personal information to treat him badly. Then he uses other people's personal information to treat them badly. This is hypocrical.

Then Dan protects the identity of lunatics like Mike Parker who posted under the pseudonym Peter Pan while calling his own critics cowards if they stay anonymous. This is also hypocritcal.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:27 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:06 pm
Can you explain that witticism for us folks who don’t think Moksha is funny? I really want to understand it in order to perhaps broaden my taste in obscure and unattainable comedy.

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Did you bother to look up Echidna?
No. It’s because I, the viewer, isn’t in on the joke that Julian is a hedgehog.

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