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Moksha wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:57 am
Joseph Goebbels longed to be the minister of propaganda.

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That guy is from central casting.

“Now in the role of over-the-top Bond Nazi . . . .

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Dr. Sunstoned wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:12 am
I think there are more Will Schryver types out there than we know.
I believe it. I have known a few in my time. Had a prof at BYU who believed enlightened monarchy was the best form of gov’t.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:29 am
Moksha wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:20 am
We all know Trump wants to be a dictator. This is one of those times where he admits it. He also wants to have those Moscow-type military parades. Your suggestion of Trump taking the Emperor Seat in a gladiatorial arena was spot on.
It baffles me that Trump voters do not see this. It is so bleeding obvious. Or maybe some want it? I can’t imagine wanting it.
There is a reason that your baffled over Trump voters not seeing this. The reason is that what you are seeing is a mirage in your head. Other people (including Trump voters) are not in your head so how could they possibly see this optical illusion in your head?

North Korea? Good God! Talk about fearmongering.
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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:23 pm
There is a reason that your baffled over Trump voters not seeing this. The reason is that what you are seeing is a mirage in your head. Other people (including Trump voters) are not in your head so how could they possibly see this optical illusion in your head?

North Korea? Good God! Talk about fearmongering.
How do you explain the fact that he said he wants his people to snap to attention the way that Kim Jong Un's people do for him?

It is not fearmongering to take Donald Trump seriously when he says something candid to a close associate.

Again, it is strange to me that something makes Trump supporters blind to the danger Trump constitutes. He has a track record of praising and envying authoritarian leaders. This statement fits the pattern, but it adds a significant element. It shows that he wants what these authoritarian leaders have: the subservient behavior of cowed subjects.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:09 pm
.Again, it is strange to me that something makes Trump supporters blind to the danger Trump constitutes.
Do you recognize the existence of millions of American citizens that see the opposite of Trump (the current administration) as the danger to America and Americans? I'm not suggesting that as a fact, I am merely asking if you recognize that many Americans see danger as well but said danger coming from a different source.
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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:24 pm
Do you recognize the existence of millions of American citizens that see the opposite of Trump (the current administration) as the danger to America and Americans? I'm not suggesting that as a fact, I am merely asking if you recognize that many Americans see danger as well but said danger coming from a different source.
Yeah! I recognize that it is happening, and I find it absolutely nuts. I don't find them nuts. I find the situation nuts. Trump supporters ignore the many clear indications that he admires, assists, and seeks to emulate authoritarian leaders because they somehow find the status quo more dangerous.

Bizarre.

I mean, I will be the first to tell you that the status quo is problematic, but I would never roll the dice on authoritarianism as a solution. Trump will likely join the global wave of authoritarianism, removing America from its long-held position of leader of the free world.

That is deeply, deeply depressing.
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Kishkumen wrote:
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Trump will likely join the global wave of authoritarianism, removing America from its long-held position of leader of the free world.

That is deeply, deeply depressing.
I understand that this is how you see it.

I don't see it that way. I think the chances that we will likely join the global wave of authoritarianism is less than one percent. I think we are, currently, losing the label of leader of the free world.
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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:15 pm
I understand that this is how you see it.

I don't see it that way. I think the chances that we will likely join the global wave of authoritarianism is less than one percent. I think we are, currently, losing the label of leader of the free world.
As long as the GOP passively supports Putin, our reputation as leader of the free world is imperiled. As long as we work to maintain the freedom of Ukraine and Taiwan, I think our reputation as leader of the free world has real substance behind it. The fact that Trump admires and seems to favor Putin does not inspire confidence. We know that Vance has signaled the desire to reward Putin's imperial invasion of Ukraine.

So, yeah, things look bad. Your preferred candidates seem to be willing to abandon American global leadership.

And I know that is exactly what many Trump voters, who are isolationists, want.
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I wish the Americans who want this country to be Russia would just move to Russia if they think it's so great. All these whiney bastards who used to talk about America being the greatest country in the world now want to revert back to other countries' systems they once deemed inferior.

My biggest takeaway lately is that the American education system is failing us. The GOP thrives on ignorance-based fear.
Religion is for people whose existential fear is greater than their common sense.

The god idea is popular with desperate people.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:38 pm
I wish the Americans who want this country to be Russia would just move to Russia if they think it's so great.
You are imaging things again. It's impossible to discuss something that's only true in your head.
All these whiney bastards who used to talk about America being the greatest country in the world now want to revert back to other countries' systems they once deemed inferior.
All these "whiney bastards", as you so maturely suggest, do not want what you are imagining in your head.
My biggest takeaway lately is that the American education system is failing us.
In some respects, the education system is failing us. Why it's failing, however, is something I don't think we would agree on.
The GOP thrives on ignorance-based fear.
Dictator!

Existential threat to democracy!

End of the Republic!

Russia - Russia - Russia!

Putin!

North Korea!

Fascism!

White supremacy!
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