Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

[MG 2.0]

Key phrase, “ he may well be…but we don’t know that either, do we?”

No the key phrase that you defended, "Do not rely on the words of an Apostate. Even if he comes across as a nice guy."

Yes, MG, you hate vulgarity so much that you frequently tell other posters in this space to "grow a pair."

Yep, I did say that. If you see me as a vulgar person because I said that (look at what I said in context) then I can’t stop you from thinking that. I will say, however, I try to keep my heart and mind clean and pure. I don’t always succeed. But I would not consider myself to be a vulgar man as you gave conceded to be.

I would never say what you said to me…even if deftly (?) hidden in a short story. You’ve lost my confidence.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

This thread has wandered all over the place for a long while. I wonder if we might want to put it to rest?

Your call folks.

Hall of Fame?! Probably not…maybe?

I’ve reached the ‘this is becoming somewhat tiresome’ stage. I’m sure others have too.

But it’s been worthwhile overall.

Call it good?

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

No, they aren’t opinions. Smith denied having more than one wife at a point in time when he had more than one wife. That’s not my opinion, that’s reality. The Church was found guilty of a comprehensive and deliberate financial misreporting. That’s not opinion, that’s what happened. The Book of Mormon isn’t what it claims to be. Not opinion, demonstrated fact.

Smith and the Church lied. So you must, by virtue of what you just said, mistrust everything else that Smith and the Church have told you.

Or were you misleading people when you said…
I mean, how can anyone trust anything you say when it’s obvious you don’t really mean what you say?

You haven’t said anything that would lead me to trust you. On the other hand you have said something that leads me to distrust you. It will be difficult to carry on a conversation with you.

I’ll always be wondering when the next vulgarity or sexually based innuendo might arrive on the scene.

It’s too bad it has to be that way.

A vulgar mind is not to be trusted. At least not completely. There will always be reservations...

This is where the gymnast is thoroughly pinned in and so resorts entirely to personal attacks, without holding himself to any standard. A cornered rat bites.

Ihq made this point quite well when he noted this:

No, they aren’t opinions. Smith denied having more than one wife at a point in time when he had more than one wife. That’s not my opinion, that’s reality. The Church was found guilty of a comprehensive and deliberate financial misreporting. That’s not opinion, that’s what happened. The Book of Mormon isn’t what it claims to be. Not opinion, demonstrated fact.

Smith and the Church lied. So you must, by virtue of what you just said, mistrust everything else that Smith and the Church have told you.

Or were you misleading people when you said…
I mean, how can anyone trust anything you say when it’s obvious you don’t really mean what you say?

[MG 2.0]

This is where the gymnast is thoroughly pinned in and so resorts entirely to personal attacks, without holding himself to any standard. A cornered rat bites.

Yep. That's what I'm all about.

You are SO tiresome, Marcus the Troll. Get a life.

You butt in on other people's posts as if they were your own. Very rarely do you have an original thought. We have absolutely no idea who you are except that you like to blow things up.

Is there a name for that?

Personal attacks? Yeah, right. Pot calling kettle.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Are we done with the 'all about MG" stuff yet? If so, we might be able to wrap up this thread...

I'm game. Says "the rat" (Marcus's new pet word).

Sheesh, what one has to put up with on a message board.

Regards,
MG

[Morley]

No the key phrase that you defended, "Do not rely on the words of an Apostate. Even if he comes across as a nice guy."

Yes, MG, you hate vulgarity so much that you frequently tell other posters in this space to "grow a pair."

Yep, I did say that. If you see me as a vulgar person because I said that (look at what I said in context) then I can’t stop you from thinking that. I will say, however, I try to keep my heart and mind clean and pure. I don’t always succeed. But I would not consider myself to be a vulgar man as you gave conceded to be.

I would never say what you said to me…even if deftly (?) hidden in a short story. You’ve lost my confidence.

Regards,
MG

MG, you got hurt feelings when I teased you. That’s understandable. Sometimes the feeling of betrayal that can come from hurt feelings is horrible. Hurt feelings can be worse than physical pain.

You didn’t get the joke right away, and, when you found out, you understandably thought that I was making fun of you behind your back. I was really making fun to your face.

I had thought that I was being more transparent than that, which is why I used the obvious French term for mental gymnastics. Since my painting had a bare bum and my French is not good, I used a translation program for ‘Kiss my Ass.” I wanted some phrase that was not so obvious. I didn’t understand all the implications of my choice until malkie gave his wonderful interpretation. But it wouldn’t have mattered if I’d known or not, the joy in his story alone would have made me pick it, anyway.

Anyhow, this is a long-winded way of partly apologizing, but also kind of not—because I’m only halfway sorry.

I hear you when you say you don’t trust me anymore. I wish I knew what difference that would make in how you treat me or anyone else. I get frustrated because you’re not an honest person in discussion. You’re disingenuous, you know it, and you don’t care. This becomes a form of disrespect to everyone who engages you.

I may have reacted badly. Or maybe not. I’ll have to revisit in a few days.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Morely, you are a very good person and have been so patient with MG.

It helps me be more kind and compassionate to MG when I remember that he is going through some very difficult times at home. MG is sad, lonely and feels very helpless/powerless with his situation. It makes him feel better to attack, lie and belittle. This is one of his only outlets for his many frustrations.

Sometimes I just want to give the fella a big hug and tell him things will get better and that there are many healthy ways to deal with his feelings and situation.

[MG 2.0]

Morely, you are a very good person and have been so patient with MG.

It helps me be more kind and compassionate to MG when I remember that he is going through some very difficult times at home. MG is sad, lonely and feels very helpless/powerless with his situation. It makes him feel better to attack, lie and belittle. This is one of his only outlets for his many frustrations.

Sometimes I just want to give the fella a big hug and tell him things will get better and that there are many healthy ways to deal with his feelings and situation.

On another thread you said you know me in real life…

Ok, this is getting weird. You would be an interesting person to actually meet in real life Mr. Wang.

Do you want to get together for lunch?

You can introduce yourself to me.

Help!! Help me Mr. Wang! I’m crying for help!

Private message. Let’s meet up. I am guessing you live in Utah. Maybe even nearby.

If I don’t hear from you I will have to assume you are a fraud (I think we’ve been down this path before…)

I’ll be waiting…

Really, I’d like to meet you. I’ll treat!

Man, nothing and no one surprises me anymore. There are some weird Harolds here.

Prove that you’re not one of them.

With the memes and pics you’ve been posting I don’t hold out any real hope.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Yep, I did say that. If you see me as a vulgar person because I said that (look at what I said in context) then I can’t stop you from thinking that. I will say, however, I try to keep my heart and mind clean and pure. I don’t always succeed. But I would not consider myself to be a vulgar man as you gave conceded to be.

I would never say what you said to me…even if deftly (?) hidden in a short story. You’ve lost my confidence.

Regards,
MG

MG, you got hurt feelings when I teased you. That’s understandable. Sometimes the feeling of betrayal that can come from hurt feelings is horrible. Hurt feelings can be worse than physical pain.

You didn’t get the joke right away, and, when you found out, you understandably thought that I was making fun of you behind your back. I was really making fun to your face.

I had thought that I was being more transparent than that, which is why I used the obvious French term for mental gymnastics. Since my painting had a bare bum and my French is not good, I used a translation program for ‘Kiss my Ass.” I wanted some phrase that was not so obvious. I didn’t understand all the implications of my choice until malkie gave his wonderful interpretation. But it wouldn’t have mattered if I’d known or not, the joy in his story alone would have made me pick it, anyway.

Anyhow, this is a long-winded way of partly apologizing, but also kind of not—because I’m only halfway sorry.

I hear you when you say you don’t trust me anymore. I wish I knew what difference that would make in how you treat me or anyone else. I get frustrated because you’re not an honest person in discussion. You’re disingenuous, you know it, and you don’t care. This becomes a form of disrespect to everyone who engages you.

I may have reacted badly. Or maybe not. I’ll have to revisit in a few days.

Yep. Hurt feelings. My gosh.

It’s trust. Conversation cannot succeed to the benefit of all if trust is not present. You don’t trust me to be telling the truth and I don’t trust you.

Hard to know where to go from here…

Anyway, thanks for your half assed attempt to sorta’ kinda’ apologize for your preconceived and creative attempt to marginalize ‘the other’.

Don’t concern yourself with further thought on the matter. I think I understand where you’re coming from a bit more than I did before.

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

Morely, you are a very good person and have been so patient with MG.

It helps me be more kind and compassionate to MG when I remember that he is going through some very difficult times at home. MG is sad, lonely and feels very helpless/powerless with his situation. It makes him feel better to attack, lie and belittle. This is one of his only outlets for his many frustrations.

Sometimes I just want to give the fella a big hug and tell him things will get better and that there are many healthy ways to deal with his feelings and situation.

I agree, Morley is and has always been a good person! And thank you for the other information, that is very helpful in seeing the whole picture.

On a side note, Morley, I always find your avatar art fascinating! The latest one, including the attendant explanation, is superb.