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[canpakes]

Wind power is a hugely important component of Texas’s energy supply. If ALLCAPS is any indication, they’re possibly shouting from the rooftops about wind powwr in that state:

And? What percentage of homes, and commercial properties in Texas are powered by wind?

That’s not how an electrical grid works. You know that. Now, go to your room. Bad Markk. : D

Do you have solar power? Do you have all electrical home? If so why?

We have the home we have because it was built that way many decades ago. We do not have solar panels because our orientation and tree cover doesn’t make it effective.

And there are many other ways to do one’s part with regard to responsible energy use.

[¥akaSteelhead]

I am currently eyeball deep in architecting solutions for California's grid modernization program. The idea is massively distributed micro generation that can be managed, aggregated, and put onto the grid at large. New commercial of certain size and nearly all residential construction in California is required as of a few years back (I forget the date) to be built with solar sufficient to provide 75% of the buildings average energy utilization, what isn't used at the source is sold and put on the grid. Provides massive redundancy, and resiliency via distribution. Has some interesting security issues. Should make for a highly reliable grid.

[Markk]

And? What percentage of homes, and commercial properties in Texas are powered by wind?

That’s not how an electrical grid works. You know that. Now, go to your room. Bad Markk. : D

The question is more rhetorical, but is it possible to estimate and they do. Power created by power used. You have to also figure days the farm is down because of wind and weather. Each wind farm's power generated, would goes to a sub station and then to the local grid for use.

But my question is more on how many homes and properties can be powered fully by wind (electricity).

Do you have solar power? Do you have all electrical home? If so why?

We have the home we have because it was built that way many decades ago. We do not have solar panels because our orientation and tree cover doesn’t make it effective.

And there are many other ways to do one’s part with regard to responsible energy use.

Do you have a all electric home? e.g. heat, cooking, water heater, dryer? Do own a electric car/s? What do you do for your part?

[Markk]

Texas is a different kind of energy market than most states. In the majority of the state you pick a plan from various available and contract for a time period at a certain rate from the energy company. Most customers are not locked into a single provider, meaning they can contract from energy companies that have different offerings. There are pros and cons to way the Texas grid operates. It has generally low rates, but has problems at time ensuring grid reliability.

My contracts for the last several years have been plans that are renewable based. I pay about 1 cent more a kwh for a plan that is 100% renewable based than for one that isn't. My provider buys energy off of the Ercot market place from producers that are renewable based. Does that mean the electrons flowing into my house are 100% guaranteed to be from a wind farm? Of course not. It means out of the pool of electricity being produced and transmitter around the state somewhere wind power produced energy that was put on the grid and sold on the market sufficient to meet the long term and short term purchases from my energy company.

Obviously wind farms can only produce when weather allows, that is a given. Do you have solar panels and batteries for when the weather does not agree. Is your home all electric?

In my area, we have a substation that is I assume, mostly feed from the a natural gas generating plants around the area, this one is about 15-20 miles from my home. https://www.energy.ca.gov/powerplant/co ... ng-station

My home has natural gas heat, White House, cooking, dryer, etc...and we have solar panels without battery back up. We haven't paid for electricity for almost two years, which is good in regards to cash flow, and cranking down the AC when its in three digits is nice. But!, we paid, after rebates, including going from a 100 amp to a 200 amp house panel, around 16K. So we won't break even for 6 or 7 years at best. Our system would have cost about 25K, but we found good rebates and being in construction I have connections and got very good pricing from a local contractor. We never would have bought it for the 25K, it would have been a loser for sure, and even at what we paid, it is a roll of the dice.

What I did not count on is I have to climb up on the roof (thank God I have a single story home) and clean the panels at least once a month in the winter, and ever few weeks in the summer, it takes a good hour. We had a huge fire season and I had to clean them weekly this past summer because of dust and ash. So, if someone is leaning towards solar, especially if older, you need to keep the panels clean for them to last and be efficient. They have folks that will clean them for you but I have not priced it out yet. Also, your roof needs to be in great condition. I actually re-roofed a year before we installed, so figure another 10-40K depending on how big your house is and what type of roof system you have. From what I understand most solar companies won't warrantee or finance the system without a decent roof, nor would you want to chance your solar outlasting your roofing.

I wanted batteries at first, but my contractor talked me out of it and said they are ripoff and the technology just isn't there yet.

But again living is So Ca. it is nice to not having 600 dollar monthly electric bills in the summer. I just hope I made the right call.

[Dr Exiled]

Thank you! I'll take your picture response as a positive vote for my comment. Thanks again! If it isn't a sign of agreement, perhaps answer how your narrative corresponds to the chart. It seems to me that it doesn't.

Could you point out where, on your graph, humans have prospered as a species? Thanks.



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 7X22009145

The point is, if you dare to leave the "approved" narrative for a minute, is that the earth's temperatures have fluctuated greatly regardless of what humans have done or not done. It looks like there are forces beyond our control at work and prohibiting gas stoves isn't going to make a bit of difference. If I were an up and coming scientist, I'd propose research on how the Sun and the solar cycle may have caused the fluctuations in temperature as well as volcanic activity and perhaps asteroids hitting the earth may have affected the fluctuations in temperature. Of course such research wouldn't get approved and funded precisely because it might throw some shade on the "approved" narrative.

No. 5 cannot be said to be proof that humans have caused the warming given how the same thing happened around 350 million years ago. Maybe the MIT scientist I cited has a better approach until we know more about the above chart.

ETA: Back in the 70's the alarmists were predicting another ice age.

[Dr Exiled]

I am currently eyeball deep in architecting solutions for California's grid modernization program. The idea is massively distributed micro generation that can be managed, aggregated, and put onto the grid at large. New commercial of certain size and nearly all residential construction in California is required as of a few years back (I forget the date) to be built with solar sufficient to provide 75% of the buildings average energy utilization, what isn't used at the source is sold and put on the grid. Provides massive redundancy, and resiliency via distribution. Has some interesting security issues. Should make for a highly reliable grid.

Am I correct that solar and wind contribute to about half of the grid in California?

[canpakes]

Could you point out where, on your graph, humans have prospered as a species? Thanks.



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 7X22009145

The point is, if you dare to leave the "approved" narrative for a minute, is that the earth's temperatures have fluctuated greatly regardless of what humans have done or not done.

That’s not the point of the climate change conversation. That’s the straw man ‘point’ of a typical denialist. No one denies that “the planet has been hotter before”. Sure, it was even a hot cinder covered in volcanic activity once, even.



Hey, look at that. Yecch. It was a totally natural occurrence, too. But I don’t think that those conditions fared well for coddling human life, and that’s the point. Not that ‘it was hot before’, but, what will keep us all happy and healthy today?

It looks like there are forces beyond our control at work and prohibiting gas stoves isn't going to make a bit of difference.

Yes, I’d think that prohibiting gas stoves won’t make too much of a difference with regard to any global warming. It would still have some effect because physics can’t be waved away. But that’s only half of the argument, with the other concern being that natgas exposure may not be so great for young lungs. And the proposed limits are restricted to new construction, so no one is coming to take your gas stove away. You didn’t buy into that one, did you?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 126667002/

If I were an up and coming scientist, I'd propose research on how the Sun and the solar cycle may have caused the fluctuations in temperature as well as volcanic activity and perhaps asteroids hitting the earth may have affected the fluctuations in temperature.

You’re not the first person to suggest this. All of these have been studied for years.

Of course such research wouldn't get approved and funded precisely because it might throw some shade on the "approved" narrative.

Not quite. You just haven’t looked for it. It’s out there but perhaps doing the work to find and read it would clash with your own ‘approved’ narrative that you’ve constructed around straw man arguments.

Here’s an example from 15 years ago:
https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=115207

ETA: Back in the 70's the alarmists were predicting another ice age.

ETA: No, they weren’t.

[ajax18]

Not that ‘it was hot before’, but, what will keep us all happy and healthy today?

How many years of a better climate has resulted from the green energy legislation we've passed so far? How much has that cost?

[canpakes]

Do you have solar power? Do you have all electrical home? If so why?

Do you have an all electric home? e.g. heat, cooking, water heater, dryer? Do own an electric car/s? What do you do for your part?

When we moved in we actually added more gas capability and swapped to a gas stove. The previous owners had already installed a Rinnai water heater, which is nice. The AC and house heater are older units and we’ll work with them until it’s practical to replace them, especially because our location doesn’t see extreme cold or heat, and we rarely use AC.

Our vehicles are older and well-maintained. And although we are super-efficient with bundling tasks and trips, EVs don’t work for us for the same reason they don’t work for you: the need to drive long distances in a single day, and certain cargo capacity needs. But both of our vehicles have over 200K miles on them and the environmental and economic proposition of keeping them as opposed to consuming more resources to junk them and buy new vehicles still works.

[canpakes]

Not that ‘it was hot before’, but, what will keep us all happy and healthy today?

How many years of a better climate has resulted from the green energy legislation we've passed so far?

How many years of a better life has resulted from you eschewing drinking and smoking?

How much has that cost?

I don’t know. Do the math. You know what you’re paying in taxes; whip out your calculator and dig in to how many dollars are devoted to green energy legislation. It’s probably enough to buy you a good burger once a year.