Let the Deportations Begin!

[canpakes]

Hey Snazzip

(I don't think I have had the pleasure of engaging you before)

Hell, this should make you happy.

Deporting legal citizens should make me "happy?"

For all the water you've carried for Trump, and him not hiding that this was in his plans, it's what you voted for.

Oh, I see, you're one of those people.

Well, why did you vote for Trump, then? You’ve stated in multiple recent past posts your absolute disgust with there being ‘20 million illegal immigrants’ in the country. Did you think that Trump was going to present them all with amnesty?

[Snazzip]

I wrote a whole response, but it seems to have been eaten by the void. Oh well, it's for the best anyway. I need to work on being a nicer person.

[canpakes]

I wrote a whole response, but it seems to have been eaten by the void. Oh well, it's for the best anyway. I need to work on being a nicer person.

I’ll take a box of donuts, please.

[Snazzip]

I wrote a whole response, but it seems to have been eaten by the void. Oh well, it's for the best anyway. I need to work on being a nicer person.

I’ll take a box of donuts, please.

Can't start in the deep end, have to take baby steps.

[drumdude]

I don't think the sky is falling, but I can visualize a potential roadmap where it could.

I agree there's a path to get there (Trump overturning basic rights guaranteed by the Constitution), I just think it's not likely.

[ceeboo]

You hope Trump deports legal citizens?

I doubt that even Schmo was actually serious about hoping that Trump decides to deport millions of legal citizens

I don't know, that's why I asked the person who suggested it.

but I have very little doubt that Trump will try to deport millions of innocent and hard-working people who are currently vital to our economy and prosperity. He has also threatened to prosecute and jail anyone who opposes him and has even suggested something like Korean style internment or reeducation camps for people don't agree with his policies. He doesn't even try to hide the fact that he is largely motivated by vengeance against any who oppose him. Hatred, vengeance and lies spew from his mouth like water from a firehose. Like it or not, he is a convicted felon, an incurable narcissist and a hateful bigot and misogynist even a misanthrope who cares about nothing other than his own selfish ego and wealth. I predict that before the end of his term of office, even you will be unable to avoid that conclusion. I can think of no one who better fits the evangelical concept of the anti-Christ. Perhaps that is one of the reasons that fanatical Christian evangelists support him! They may view him as the horrid, prophesized anti-Christ whom they believe will presage the second coming of Christ. Is that how you view him by chance?


ETA: By the way, why do you still doubt that Trump intends to do all these horrible things, when he has openly expressed his intention to do so? Do you actually approve of the despotism he intends to afflict upon us? Doesn't it bother you that he is a hateful, vindictive and decidedly Un-Christlike example? Doesn't bother you that he has expressed admiration for horrible despots like Kim Jong Un and Putin?

While I can't be certain what Trump will do (just like I can't be certain what anyone will or will not do), I have tremendous confidence that he was a much better choice for this country than the only other choice on the table. In addition, I would suggest that, given the results of the election, it is clear that I am not alone in my personal assessment. For Trump to have won in the manner he did - which I predicted would happen in another thread - is extremely telling. The most important question for the entire country, in my opinion, is how many people will be willing to stop starring at the 24/7 loop of porn-fear that is being plated up, put down their fork, take a pause from frantically screaming about the team that won the election and spend a few moments considering why the other might have lost. While I do not think most people will put their forks down, I do think it would be an extremely wise thing to do.

As to your question that asks me if I am a fanatical Christian evangelist who believes Trump is the key to ushering in the Second Coming: No, I don't hold that view.

[Gunnar]

While I can't be certain what Trump will do (just like I can't be certain what anyone will or will not do), I have tremendous confidence that he was a much better choice for this country than the only other choice on the table. In addition, I would suggest that, given the results of the election, it is clear that I am not alone in my personal assessment. For Trump to have won in the manner he did - which I predicted would happen in another thread - is extremely telling. The most important question for the entire country, in my opinion, is how many people will be willing to stop starring at the 24/7 loop of porn-fear that is being plated up, put down their fork, take a pause from frantically screaming about the team that won the election and spend a few moments considering why the other might have lost. While I do not think most people will put their forks down, I do think it would be an extremely wise thing to do.

As to your question that asks me if I am a fanatical Christian evangelist who believes Trump is the key to ushering in the Second Coming: No, I don't hold that view.

I think it highly unfair and irrational for anyone to conclude that Trump was a much better choice than Biden in any respect. Under Biden's administration we got the Chips act and meaningful infrastructure programs that have resulted in much more generation of new jobs than during the Trump administration, and the lowest unemployment rates in more than 50 years. Our inflation rate decreased to less than that of any of the other major economies and resulted in one of the best, if not the best, GDP growth rates of major industrial nations. One of the peculiar things about recent polls about the economy is that most people surveyed agreed they were individually doing fine, while falsely believing that the nation, as a whole was not. I am convinced that your belief that Biden compared so unfavorably to Trump is due more to buying into misinformation widely disseminated by Trump and his hard right supporters than to reality. Trump's forté and business model has always consisted of 3 main components 1. Constantly attack. 2. Lie whenever necessary and 3. Never admit to being mistaken or wrong, no matter how compelling and abundant the evidence. It is deplorable and tragic how consistently and well that has seemed to work for him! He overwhelms with such a loud and constant torrent of lies that it is too often difficult for the truth to get in edgewise! Have you ever hear the term "Gish Gallup?" That is virtually Trump's only debate technique!

[ceeboo]

While I can't be certain what Trump will do (just like I can't be certain what anyone will or will not do), I have tremendous confidence that he was a much better choice for this country than the only other choice on the table. In addition, I would suggest that, given the results of the election, it is clear that I am not alone in my personal assessment. For Trump to have won in the manner he did - which I predicted would happen in another thread - is extremely telling. The most important question for the entire country, in my opinion, is how many people will be willing to stop starring at the 24/7 loop of porn-fear that is being plated up, put down their fork, take a pause from frantically screaming about the team that won the election and spend a few moments considering why the other might have lost. While I do not think most people will put their forks down, I do think it would be an extremely wise thing to do.

As to your question that asks me if I am a fanatical Christian evangelist who believes Trump is the key to ushering in the Second Coming: No, I don't hold that view.

I think it highly unfair and irrational for anyone to conclude that Trump was a much better choice than Trump in any respect.

I think it's highly irrational to attempt comparing Trump with Trump.

Under Biden's administration we got the Chips act and meaningful infrastructure programs that have resulted in much more generation of new jobs than during the Trump administration, the lowest unemployment rates in more than 50 years. Our inflation rated decreased to less than that of any of the other major economies and one of the best, if not the best, GDP growth rates. One of the peculiar things about recent polls about the economy is that most people surveyed agreed they were individually doing fine, while falsely believing that the nation, as a whole was not.

Yeah, I get it Gunnar, you supported Harris - The economy was great - No worries - I am more than happy to leave you plenty of room to hold your own opinions and beliefs.

[Gunnar]

I think it highly unfair and irrational for anyone to conclude that Trump was a much better choice than Biden in any respect.

I think it's highly irrational to attempt comparing Trump with Trump.

Under Biden's administration we got the Chips act and meaningful infrastructure programs that have resulted in much more generation of new jobs than during the Trump administration, the lowest unemployment rates in more than 50 years. Our inflation rated decreased to less than that of any of the other major economies and one of the best, if not the best, GDP growth rates. One of the peculiar things about recent polls about the economy is that most people surveyed agreed they were individually doing fine, while falsely believing that the nation, as a whole was not.

Yeah, I get it Gunnar, you supported Harris - The economy was great - No worries - I am more than happy to leave you plenty of room to hold your own opinions and beliefs.

You know I meant to say, "I think it highly unfair and irrational for anyone to conclude that Trump was a much better choice than Biden in any respect." And that, believe it or not, is demonstrable reality, as compellingly pointed out by Gavin Newsome, much to the embarrassment and disgrace of Sean Hannity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMDj3LpyLIs

[Doctor Steuss]

For informational purposes, a prior Trump nominee, and potential Supreme Court Justice pick should a vacancy arise, Judge James Ho (Empirical S.COTUS** thinks he’s the #1 most likely pick) has said that all it would take for the 14 Amendment to no longer apply to children of illegal immigrants would be for a declaration of illegal immigrants as an invasion.

“Birthright citizenship is supported by various Supreme Court opinions, both unanimous and separate opinions involving Justices Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and others. But birthright citizenship obviously doesn’t apply in case of war or invasion. No one to my knowledge has ever argued that the children of invading aliens are entitled to birthright citizenship. And I can’t imagine what the legal argument for that would be.”

~Judge James Ho, in an interview with Josh Blackman.

In my opinion, the deck is already being stacked, and the roadwork being laid, to jettison American citizens. I think it's likely a given that Trump will at least try to deport US citizens. The only question is whether other guardrails will be sufficient to keep it from happening, or if there will be enough outcry from Americans to cause Trump to soften his Mein Kampf "poisoning the blood of the country" stance. Based on the insatiable xenophobia of MAGA, I'm not particularly hopeful for the latter.


**Had to add a period in the organization's name, because a certain board overseer has a touch of the 'tism.