You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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Re: You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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drumdude wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:09 pm
...I get that MG is super annoying sometimes...
Mg's posting here is not even in the same category as "super annoying." And his latest pretense that he is here to do missionary work is just laughable. He is the furthest thing from an example of a good Mormon person.
...Trolls don’t join communities to build relationships; in fact, they feed on tearing them down...The way to get rid of trolls is to ignore them until their behavior is actionable...

https://archives.modsquad.com/posts/tro ... community/
That describes exactly mg: he feeds on tearing down. The problem with the advice to ignore is that due to the nature of our rules, trolls can viciously troll, try to destroy communities, and do great harm with very little being technically found actionable. (Look how much it took to get rid of Atlanticmike's trolling.) In my opinion, that's why people don't just ignore him, any more than you would ignore a small fire inside your house.

And since you may not be seeing the pattern yet, here is mg's first post under his previous name:
mentalgymnast wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:39 pm
...It appears that this board is going to be pretty much like the other. Sad.

It could have been so much better. I suppose this is to be expected when hate and nastiness rule the day among so many critics and ex Mormons...
Does that sound like someone who is here to participate in a community?

By the way, he stopped using the above name after a last response in a thread where he was called out for trashing one of our beloved members after his death. His behavior was despicable and noted by all, and he slunk away.

About five months later, he was back, under a new version of his name. Here was his first post:
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:04 pm
Hi all! Mentalgymnast here. What has happened to this board? Looks like it may be self destructing. You better get your act together if this is going to be the reputable board of days gone by. Mud slinging, calling names, accusations…calling out each other as trolls…oh wait, that sounds/looks familiar.

So sad. Shades is probably feeling pretty blue about where this board has gone. Same ol’ players, with some new additions.

Bring ZLMB back! 🙂 Those were the days…

Of course, by the looks of it on this thread, there are those that seem to thrive and find some degree of fulfillment in rolling in the mud, so to speak. Hope you’re able to work things out and make this place more civil. I wouldn’t get my hopes up. 🙁

Regards,
MG
Look familiar? Same trolling, same community bashing, same asshole. "Super annoying" doesn't cover it at all.
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Re: You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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Marcus wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:40 pm
His behavior was despicable and noted by all, and he slunk away.
I think we can all note his behavior without implying he’s a pedophile, and threatening to dox him.

There’s no reason to throw those on top of whatever other issues you have with him.
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Marcus wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:40 pm
drumdude wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:09 pm
...I get that MG is super annoying sometimes...
Mg's posting here is not even in the same category as "super annoying." And his latest pretense that he is here to do missionary work is just laughable. He is the furthest thing from an example of a good Mormon person.
...Trolls don’t join communities to build relationships; in fact, they feed on tearing them down...The way to get rid of trolls is to ignore them until their behavior is actionable...

https://archives.modsquad.com/posts/tro ... community/
That describes exactly mg: he feeds on tearing down. The problem with the advice to ignore is that due to the nature of our rules, trolls can viciously troll, try to destroy communities, and do great harm with very little being technically found actionable. (Look how much it took to get rid of Atlanticmike's trolling.) In my opinion, that's why people don't just ignore him, any more than you would ignore a small fire inside your house.

And since you may not be seeing the pattern yet, here is mg's first post under his previous name:
mentalgymnast wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:39 pm
...It appears that this board is going to be pretty much like the other. Sad.

It could have been so much better. I suppose this is to be expected when hate and nastiness rule the day among so many critics and ex Mormons...
Does that sound like someone who is here to participate in a community?

By the way, he stopped using the above name after a last response in a thread where he was called out for trashing one of our beloved members after his death. His behavior was despicable and noted by all, and he slunk away.

About five months later, he was back, under a new version of his name. Here was his first post:
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:04 pm
Hi all! Mentalgymnast here. What has happened to this board? Looks like it may be self destructing. You better get your act together if this is going to be the reputable board of days gone by. Mud slinging, calling names, accusations…calling out each other as trolls…oh wait, that sounds/looks familiar.

So sad. Shades is probably feeling pretty blue about where this board has gone. Same ol’ players, with some new additions.

Bring ZLMB back! 🙂 Those were the days…

Of course, by the looks of it on this thread, there are those that seem to thrive and find some degree of fulfillment in rolling in the mud, so to speak. Hope you’re able to work things out and make this place more civil. I wouldn’t get my hopes up. 🙁

Regards,
MG
Look familiar? Same trolling, same community bashing, same asshole. "Super annoying" doesn't cover it at all.
Yep, those are my words. You are privileged to take them as you will.

I stand by my words.

Truthfully? ZLMB was a whole different place than this. Those that can remember know what I'm talking about about.

Last time I checked, free speech is still alive and well. You are free to say what you will as am I.

Regards,
MG
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:45 pm
Marcus wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:40 pm
His behavior was despicable and noted by all, and he slunk away.
I think we can all note his behavior without implying he’s a pedophile, and threatening to dox him.

There’s no reason to throw those on top of whatever other issues you have with him.
So, you haven't read the past threads.

Did you read the part of my post explaining how he's well past 'super annoying'?
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:45 pm
Marcus wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:40 pm
His behavior was despicable and noted by all, and he slunk away.
I think we can all note his behavior without implying he’s a pedophile, and threatening to dox him.

There’s no reason to throw those on top of whatever other issues you have with him.
Unfortunately I do believe there are reasons.

Nefarious? I'll let others be the judge.

Regards,
MG
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Folks, as you can see we are seeing exactly what I described at the beginning of this thread in my opening posts.

Rehash of rehashing. Ad nauseum.

Watch where it goes from here.

Regards,
MG
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Re: You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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Marcus wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 pm
drumdude wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:45 pm


I think we can all note his behavior without implying he’s a pedophile, and threatening to dox him.

There’s no reason to throw those on top of whatever other issues you have with him.
So, you haven't read the past threads.

Did you read the part of my post explaining how he's well past 'super annoying'?
I still don’t see what that has to do with insinuating he’s a pedophile who needs to be doxxed.
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Marcus wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 pm
drumdude wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:02 pm


That’s a bit over the top, Marcus. :lol:
You haven't read what he's tried to defend in the past. Do some reading. It's not over the top. He's here only to troll, so he goes to extremes to justify things, all while presenting himself as a fully believing LDS. He does your religion no favors with his behavior here.
And look at how much the troll has been fed in this thread alone.
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:53 pm
Marcus wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 pm

So, you haven't read the past threads.

Did you read the part of my post explaining how he's well past 'super annoying'?
I still don’t see what that has to do with insinuating he’s a pedophile who needs to be doxxed.
I said (not insinuated) that "human resources and child protective services had their hands full" with him. That is based on multiple threads here where he has said inappropriate things about interactions between children and teachers and his experiences. in my opinion, it's part of his troll schtick. It is exceedingly inappropriate on his part, and it needs to be called out.

The doxxing part you'll have to speak to Everybody Wang Chung about.

Now, what do you think about my argument that his behavior here is not "super-annoying" but purposefully an attempt to be destructive?
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sock puppet wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:57 pm
Marcus wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 pm

You haven't read what he's tried to defend in the past. Do some reading. It's not over the top. He's here only to troll, so he goes to extremes to justify things, all while presenting himself as a fully believing LDS. He does your religion no favors with his behavior here.
And look at how much the troll has been fed in this thread alone.
I know. Hence my point about fires in houses, decades-long habits, and rules.
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