Donald J Trump Assumes Full Control of the Progressive Movement

[Moksha]

How should progressives feel about Trump getting all kissy face with the Russians, and must they buy into the unsanitary regressives/Republican practice of oral-anal contact? Trump did that willingly, without those Russians needing to get him liquored up on vodka.

[Gunnar]

Two posts asserting that Trump strips the humanity from people ..?

OK, that makes sense. Especially in light of this article on Ukraine, linked below:

https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/ ... e=substack

From the first paragraph:

“What we have seen over the last few days is so extreme that it deserves to be said out loud and acknowledged as soon as possible. The United States has not just abandoned Ukraine, the United States is now actively helping Vladimir Putin and the Russian state kill Ukrainians to try and force Ukraine to accept a bad peace deal that very well might spell the end of their country. At the same time, the USA is now bending over backwards to help protect the Russian military.”
...

The rest of the article gets into the sad details, and should be required reading for MAGA, as a challenge to their humanitarianism.

History will not be kind to Trump’s actions.

I wholeheartedly agree. The link you provided, plus the further links imbedded in it, provide more than sufficient, damning evidence that if any party lacks humanity it is Trump and his fellow reprobates in his administration. It is undeniably clear that Trump aligns himself much more with Putin and other evil authoritarian and even murderous, anti-democracy regimes and movements than with Ukraine and democracy. But, of course, HoH will probably not even consider looking at them or seriously consider doing so. It is becoming increasingly difficult to rationally avoid the conclusion that Trump is and has for years been a Russian asset or spy, with a mission to destroy this country and democracy for his own selfish gain and that of Putin and Russia. Did Russia Recruit Trump in 1987?

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Did Russia Recruit Trump in 1987? Ex-Soviet Officer Makes Claims | Vantage with Palki Sharma | N18G

Donald Trump’s connection with Russia goes back decades—long before he stepped into politics. In 1987, Trump visited Moscow, wined and dined by Soviet officials. Soon after, he flirted with a presidential run. Now, a former Soviet officer claims Trump was recruited by the KGB during that trip. Is there truth to these allegations, or is it just another conspiracy? From Cold War surveillance to Russian investments and the infamous Steele dossier—Trump’s ties with Moscow have raised questions for years. Was he a Russian asset or just enamoured with power? Palki Sharma tells you.

The evidence of that, whether HoH acknowledges it or not, is awfully damning and convincing! Whether Trump is actually actively employed by Putin as a spy or not, it is abundantly clear that his sympathies are far more aligned with Russia and other despotisms than with Ukraine and democracy in general and apparently have been for (at least) almost 4 decades now!

[Gunnar]

How should progressives feel about Trump getting all kissy face with the Russians, and must they buy into the unsanitary regressives/Republican practice of oral-anal contact? Trump did that willingly, without those Russians needing to get him liquored up on vodka.

Given the massive evidence already linked to by canpakes and the link I provided in my last post, it doesn't seem at all unfair or irrational to seriously consider the probability that Trump is a despicable and dangerous traitor! I fully agree with the conclusion reached by the author of the newsletter canpakes linked us to:

Conclusion
As a rule of thumb, Trump only ever takes concrete action to harm Ukraine and only ever takes concrete action to help Russia. In this case, he is admitting to helping Russia kill Ukrainians.

This is the official position of the US Government and through that the people of the USA. Its amazing how little this is being criticized.

Europe needs to understand—if the USA is willing to help Russia kill Ukrainians today, it could easily be willing to help Russia kill other Europeans tomorrow.

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[Gunnar]

I want to express my gratitude to President Trump for what I hope will be a rescue for the Democrat party by dismantling the progressive movement. He has nearly single-handedly revitalized the Democrat party. Thank you President Trump!

President Trump deserves universal condemnation rather than gratitude! Based on most of what I have read and observed from Democrats, especially rational and moderate progressives, including the 2024 Democrat Platform, which you apparently still have refused to even look at, they are far more deserving of gratitude and respect than Trump and his minions, and far more humanitarian. Based on what Trump has said and tried to do since his election I can think of few people more basically anti-humanitarian and misanthropic than Donald J. Trump--especially towards Ukrainians and people who are not fantastically wealthy like himself and his billionaire friends and donors.

[Gunnar]

The ‘evidence is in’: Trump is an agent of Putin

166,358 views Mar 5, 2025 The Morning Edition Podcast
It’s only been six days since what has become known as “the wildest dust-up ever televised from the Oval Office”. But of course, six days within the Donald Trump administration, isn’t your average person’s six days.


In this time, Trump has made the extraordinary move to pull all military funding from Ukraine. Vladimir Putin’s press secretary has responded by saying that American policy now “largely aligns” with Russia’s interests. And Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky has announced a new peace plan on social media.


Today, international and political editor Peter Hartcher, on how long Ukraine can survive without American support. And the signs we might have missed that show that Trump is incontrovertibly an agent of Putin.

[Some Schmo]

I'm amused and saddened by the post-election analysis that goes something like Democrats failed to message well to idiots. They need to learn how to attract more morons.

I'm paraphrasing, but not much.

Could there be something to this, though?

The MAGAns are too ignorant to cope with the modern world. This is probably partly their own fault, on average; most of them could probably have learned more if they had tried harder to learn.

The modern world is complex, though.

I read your post a couple days ago and have been thinking about it since.

You might be on to something, but here's the main problem: judging Trump's character, competency, and intelligence is not that complex (like physics can be). In fact, I've never known of anyone so transparently broken and flawed. People didn't need to understand geopolitics, the economy, or any range of social issues to make a simple assessment about Trump's fitness. If they were flipping out over Biden about his age (for the real concern there rather than for the political posturing), then Trump should have been disqualified too, but they weren't really concerned about that. I imagine most of them just started whining about age because that was the GOP talking point at the time, and the GOP base can't think for themselves. It's a party is idiot parrots.

Judging Trump is not a complex task. If a person can't tell he isn't qualified, they are intellectually void. I don't know what strategy you use to attract the brain dead, other than to have a leader who is also brain dead. That's how the GOP won. America, on average, is brain dead, and wanted a leader just like them.

[Doctor Steuss]

Before I address your question, let me provide you with a brief history lesson, Moksha. Throughout our 250 years in America, we have faced near destruction only once, during the Civil War. It was a Republican president who rescued us from the southern Democrats who sought to secede from the Union in order to maintain the institution of slavery for black Americans.

Here, you appear to acknowledge that it was a progressive Republican that brought us back from the brink from conservative Democrats, which makes your aversion to progressivism -- and desire for the Democrats to return to the conservative values of status quo neoliberalism -- particularly perplexing.

[Hound of Heaven]

Before I address your question, let me provide you with a brief history lesson, Moksha. Throughout our 250 years in America, we have faced near destruction only once, during the Civil War. It was a Republican president who rescued us from the southern Democrats who sought to secede from the Union in order to maintain the institution of slavery for black Americans.

Here, you appear to acknowledge that it was a progressive Republican that brought us back from the brink from conservative Democrats, which makes your aversion to progressivism -- and desire for the Democrats to return to the conservative values of status quo neoliberalism -- particularly perplexing.

The error you are committing is quite prevalent among progressives and is a significant factor in Trump's election victory.

I trust you will comprehend this concept as it is quite straightforward. Simply because the term progress is embedded in the word progressive, it does not imply that progressives hold exclusive rights to the only just and compassionate path for America's advancement in the future.

For more than 200 years, America has advanced more effectively than any other nation on the planet. Throughout this period, the political landscape has seen a near-even division, with 19 Republican presidents and 16 Democrats taking office.

In the last 15 years, the far left wing of the Democrat party has begun to behave as if they possess complete authority over the direction of America's progress, largely because the term "progress" is associated with their agenda. When you reflect on this and recognize the immaturity of such an approach, it becomes clearer why Trump has been elected twice.

As I've mentioned repeatedly over the past few months. Trump was elected due to the progressives engaging in a seuicide dance, a fact that is evident to everyone except themselves. Progressivism has transformed into regressivism. Your actions are now characterized by the belief that men can transition to women and that progressives harbor animosity towards America. Best of luck in trying to change perspectives, as it seems quite unlikely to succeed.

[Doctor Steuss]

The error you are committing is quite prevalent among progressives and is a significant factor in Trump's election victory.

In a roundabout way, I agree that this is a significant factor in Trump's election victory. The inability of Americans to see beyond their American-centric political duopoly, and politics as team sport ends up making it incredibly difficult for people to view history outside of their team's lens. Something I believe you may be doing here. Then again, the rub is I might be doing it, thinking you're doing it, and it's turtles wearing cute little confirmation bias overalls all the way down.

I trust you will comprehend this concept as it is quite straightforward. Simply because the term progress is embedded in the word progressive, it does not imply that progressives hold exclusive rights to the only just and compassionate path for America's advancement in the future.

Of course progressives don't hold an exclusive right. I'm not a progressive, and find many aspects of progressivism appealing and likely beneficial for the advancement and prosperity of Western democracies. I'm not sure what that has to do with a big government federalist progressive Republican being the one that saved the country from conservative Democrats, and why you want us to return to the same types of conservative Democrats that tried to keep the South in the dark ages of humanity.

For more than 200 years, America has advanced more effectively than any other nation on the planet. Throughout this period, the political landscape has seen a near-even division, with 19 Republican presidents and 16 Democrats taking office.

What exactly are you using as the metric for advancement? The reason I ask is because it isn't GDP per capita. It isn't education. It isn't poverty rates. It isn't healthcare outcomes. It isn't freedom indexes.

To me, the primary way that America has advanced more effectively is using neoliberalism to outsource poverty through economic colonialism, and prioritizing militarization in a way that allowed us to become entwined in everyone else's wellbeing, to where they are dependent upon us (giving us a massive monopoly on global geopolitical influence and trade). Just wondering how close we are on that perception(?)

In the last 15 years, the far left wing of the Democrat party has begun to behave as if they possess complete authority over the direction of America's progress, largely because the term "progress" is associated with their agenda. When you reflect on this and recognize the immaturity of such an approach, it becomes clearer why Trump has been elected twice.

The "far left" of the Democratic party is like 3 politicians that are right of the progressive parties of most industrialized nations. One need only look to our (previously) closest ally, Canada, to contrast their "Conservative" party with our "Liberal" party to see that America's political spectrum has a thumb pressed pretty heavy on the scale, skewing the perception of what could even begin to be considered "left" (forget about "far left).

As I've mentioned repeatedly over the past few months. Trump was elected due to the progressives engaging in a seuicide dance, a fact that is evident to everyone except themselves. Progressivism has transformed into regressivism. Your actions are now characterized by the belief that men can transition to women and that progressives harbor animosity towards America. Best of luck in trying to change perspectives, as it seems quite unlikely to succeed.

Oh, there's no doubt that MAGA's propaganda arm successfully prioritizing a weird culture war over all else, and tap into the cult's limbic need for fear porn, and the right-wing necessity to have a Dalit to blame all of society's ills on was heavily influential in Trump getting elected. We've now got empathy being branded as anathema to society. I don't know how Democrats can even begin to compete with that kind of cult think.

They could try to do the types of populist progressive things that most people seem to back, but that would also mean running afoul of their corporate overlords. So far, cutting the purse strings from the donor class seems to be a bridge too far for Democrats. Even the Democrat golden child, Obama, made sure to sacrifice the American people at the altar of his Pharmaceutical and Insurance industry overlords.

[Molok]

In the last 15 years, the far left wing of the Democrat party has begun to behave as if they possess complete authority over the direction of America's progress, largely because the term "progress" is associated with their agenda.

How? By unelected people online expressing their opinions? In what way is that different from literally everyone else?