You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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Re: MG would concur

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:16 pm
I could go to the Book of Abraham and pull out the essential truths found therein

First it's priceless truths and now essential truths,

:lol:

Only a fanatical religionist belonging to a cult would speak that way.
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Re: You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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Mormonism is not just all about Jesus and whether or not he was resurrected from the dead and therefore the Church is true. Mormonism is all about Joseph Smith being a liar, bearing false priesthood, banging young women being barns, and falsifying translations of a dead language (1842) that slanders sacred beliefs held by the ancient Egyptians.

Mormonism is a shameful religion that is supported by brainwashed people and apologetic liars such as, MG. They continue to lie and slander the Egyptians.
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Re: MG would concur

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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:55 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:16 pm
Sure, I could go to the Book of Abraham and pull out the essential truths found therein…
I don’t think that you could.
…but that would take more time than I am willing to give to you on the answer.
Like I said, you’re lazy.
Rather than any focus on those truths you spin off into other stuff.
But they’re not truths. It’s just a list of stuff you believe. That doesn’t constitute an accepted truth. Pick one and (without using A.I.) demonstrate that it is “True - If something is true, it is based on facts rather than being invented or imagined, and is accurate and reliable.“
(COLLINS DEFINITION OF TRUE)
I predict that you won’t. Because a. You’re too lazy, and b. None of it is “true” per that definition.
You seem to be one of those that are ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the Truth. I could have been one of those if I hadn't held on to the Iron Rod and stayed on the path...even when it would have been easy to leave the path and go towards the Great and Spacious Building.
But you haven’t endured to the end have you…you’ve been called by an Apostle to serve a senior mission. You’ve been told by a General Authority to stop living by convenience and to start living by covenant - to stop making excuses and to trust The Lord to take care of all the things you think are stopping you, and serve a senior mission. But no, you cannot bring yourself to sustain those Apostles and General Authorities, you cannot bring yourself to trust in the Lord that you claim to believe in. If you believed what you spouted you’d be on a senior mission by now. But you’re not. Because you don’t. You prefer to be lazy and live by convenience.
Nothing burger. Not even interesting. Just the critic.

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MG
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:24 pm
Nothing burger. Not even interesting. Just the critic.

Oh, I see. You want something fresh and original. Here ya go:
Dr. Shades wrote:
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» Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:22 am

Congratulations, Shulem, on revealing so much original information and fresh conclusions regarding both the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham. Clearly, your tenacity has paid off.

See here for starters:
Mormon at ages 11, 15, 24 is really Joseph Smith Jr., in disguise!

PS. Put up or shut up!
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Unproven truths remain unverified -- speculation

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Dear readers,

All of the so-called priceless truths or essential truths that MG alludes to are entirely based on a faith based projection and cannot be scientifically proven. It's nothing more than theology produced by religion and cannot and never will be proven true.

MG is here to sell you a bill of goods. Buyer, beware!

MG, I rebuke you by the power of truth within me!

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Re: You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:10 pm
Hey, MG. You seem to have overlooked the people here who do not fit your stereotype. They are still "at it" too, if by "at it" you mean hanging around with friends online and enjoying each other's company.

Let it be known that Kishkumen and Shulem are friends regardless of the tiffs and points of contention we have expressed in various threads on this board.

:)
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Re: You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:21 am
Not much new to shout about, huh?

Same stuff.

Book of Mormon historicity.

Dear MG,

You are more than welcome to come up to the CELESTIAL forum and discuss Book of Mormon historicity in this thread, entitled:

River Sidon War and Book of Mormon Blooper

Please, tell me if you think I may be wrong about something in that thread. Up in the Celestial forum we are on our very best behavior. You can relax and express yourself in a comfortable environment. Nobody will attack you there unjustly and if they do, I will defend you. I promise.

See ya there?

8-)
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:16 pm
... As it is, and as I've mentioned, the critics...such as yourself...have absolutely NOTHING to offer in the way of a presentation/narrative as to the purpose of our existence while we live on breathe on planet earth. Except to make of it what we will. The CofJCofLDS offers a narrative of eternal purpose and progression. My gosh! It doesn't get any BIGGER than that.

You and the other critics, as I said, are empty vessels at the end of the day. You have nothing to offer beyond eat, drink, and be merry. Or in other words, simply taking advantage of all life has to offer without thinking of accountability for actions after we die, or what we might do to act and provide service in helping others to obtain eternal life in the kingdom of God as families. I could go on.

Simply put, without the truths taught in the Book of Abraham and elsewhere...life is basically a crapshoot. Make of it what you will.

Essentially, you could be a bum...and that's OK.

Granted, the world is full of people that make awesome choices and do great things without religion or Mormonism in particular. I know and have known these people. I call/called them my friends. But that doesn't discount that truth is truth and that there are benefits in knowing and practicing and living by that truth and holding on to the iron rod and heading in the direction of the Tree of Life.

The Book of Abraham offers a number of those "priceless truths" that God has disseminated into the world. Joseph didn't operate/live in a vacuum. Some of these truths were already self evident to seekers/philosophers of his day.

Anyway, I think you're making too much of where information comes from rather than focusing on whether or not that information/knowledge is true. You seem to be one of those that are ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the Truth. I could have been one of those if I hadn't held on to the Iron Rod and stayed on the path...even when it would have been easy to leave the path and go towards the Great and Spacious Building...
Wow. You are one sick puppy.
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:06 pm
...I'll leave it to others as to whether or not they find your 'natural man' posts appropriate or not...
Good. "Others" have determined your posts are wildly inappropriate. Good grief. At the very least, you should be grateful that people are aware that your sickness is yours alone and doesn't reflect what the average person in your religion thinks. Or maybe it does, who knows. Bottom line, you are a very sick individual. May you find some peace because clearly, you are a tortured soul. The hatred you express for people here unbelievable. What happened to you to create such hate? Dear god, your path must be horrendous. May you find peace.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:24 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:55 pm
I don’t think that you could. Like I said, you’re lazy.
But they’re not truths. It’s just a list of stuff you believe. That doesn’t constitute an accepted truth. Pick one and (without using A.I.) demonstrate that it is “True - If something is true, it is based on facts rather than being invented or imagined, and is accurate and reliable.“
(COLLINS DEFINITION OF TRUE)
I predict that you won’t. Because a. You’re too lazy, and b. None of it is “true” per that definition.
But you haven’t endured to the end have you…you’ve been called by an Apostle to serve a senior mission. You’ve been told by a General Authority to stop living by convenience and to start living by covenant - to stop making excuses and to trust The Lord to take care of all the things you think are stopping you, and serve a senior mission. But no, you cannot bring yourself to sustain those Apostles and General Authorities, you cannot bring yourself to trust in the Lord that you claim to believe in. If you believed what you spouted you’d be on a senior mission by now. But you’re not. Because you don’t. You prefer to be lazy and live by convenience.
Nothing burger. Not even interesting. Just the critic.

Regards,
MG
The Stig has got you pegged exactly right. You profess to have deep knowledge about a subject. In this instance The Book of Abraham. In fact you said you’ve done an equivalent amount of study to that of Professor of Professor Gee hence why you and he came to the same conclusion (my phraseology, not yours). But as always, when challenged to provide some substance you either spam the board with A.I., post links you haven’t read (or comprehended), or post an insult and run away. You’re not the great, knowledgable, stalwart of the Church that you laud yourself as being. If there’s a nothing burger around here, it’s you. Tortured soul is right.

Nothing but an A.I., platitudes, and vacuous grandiose self claims burger, with no trimmings. When the lurkers read your posts that’s what you give them. Nothing. You just run along now and let the grownups talk about substantive things.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

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Shulem wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:26 am
I've been asking for years and years:

What's the king's name?

I will never stop asking.

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