Trump is not a fascist

[Markk]

Well, So then Kish, and you were wrong....he had and has a criminal record, and Kish was either being deceitful or just ignorant, as you were. And he also has failures to appears on his record, which are crimes. So after his arrest, he has a criminal record. I corrected both of you.

Being arrested doesn't give someone a criminal record. Being convicted of a crime gives someone a criminal record. I shall refrain from crowing about correcting you because that would be weird.

Hey Bret,

What Kish posted was that Garcia had no " previous... criminal history," and Garcia, as the accounts that have been made available show a troubling history of criminal behavior.



The word "previous" in the context of the full report, means "prior to" 2019. Being arrested and detained for a crime, which he was, memorializes that history. Kish was emotionally duped into pasting a out of context snippet he did not research, or he was just being dishonest; I believe and hope it was the former.

There are signed hand written accounts, by his wife, of him punching her, throwing a boot at her, ripping part of her clothes and scratching her that made her bleed. These accounts are a history of his past criminal behavior post 2019.

And incase you missed the part about his having a failures to appears for traffic violations; that he has a criminal history of not showing up to court, which was why he was refused a bond by a judge.

And again, if you read my link you would have read the the "Gang Field Interview" which memorialized his criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member.

So given this are you going to deny that convicted or not, Garcia has a history, post 2019, of criminal behavior?

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

[Bret Ripley]

And again, if you read my link you would have read the the "Gang Field Interview" which memorialized his criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member.

Yes, I'm familiar with those documents. Garcia's "criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member" is that he wore a Chicago Bulls hat and an anonymous source claimed he belonged to a New York "clique" of MS-13. Garcia has never even lived in New York, but for my money the Bulls hat alone is reason enough to deprive him of his 5th Amendment right to due process. (I mean the Bulls? Seriously?)

[Kishkumen]

Yes, I'm familiar with those documents. Garcia's "criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member" is that he wore a Chicago Bulls hat and an anonymous source claimed he belonged to a New York "clique" of MS-13. Garcia has never even lived in New York, but for my money the Bulls hat alone is reason enough to deprive him of his 5th Amendment right to due process. (I mean the Bulls? Seriously?)

You can try to reason with Markk, but he is impervious to reason. Once he has his teeth into something, he never lets go of it, no matter how many ways and how many times you show him he is wrong. Let's face it, Markk assents to the same kind of "evidence" being used to throw him into a Salvadoran gulag. Baffling I know, but there it is. Markk really doesn't believe in the rule of law. He wants to hand over to unchecked Trump people the identification and ejection of "bad hombres" into inhumane conditions.

[canpakes]

… the image you shared is certainly going to have a significant impact on the Democrats in 2026.

Your game is silly. “Don’t do anything to stand up for people, the law, or the Constitution, because Republicans will take a picture and lie about what’s happening, to rile up MAGA! wink, wink!”

People willing to spread lies and disinformation don’t even need real photos to do so; they’ll just kick out A.I.-generated images when needed, anyway.

[canpakes]

I read the link. Did you? Garcia was arrested for his non-citizen status.

What happened after that point?

Well, So then Kish, and you were wrong....he had and has a criminal record,

Apparently, he did not.

and It does not matter what happened after that point, a protective order does not erase his criminal history from 2019 on.

Congratulations. You’ve reached the point where you’ve started telling people that it doesn’t matter what the law or the courts say, if the government wants to do something different, illegal, or unconstitutional.

It’s kind of amazing how easy it is to lead some folks into happily and enthusiastically giving up their civil rights.

[Bret Ripley]

Yes, I'm familiar with those documents. Garcia's "criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member" is that he wore a Chicago Bulls hat and an anonymous source claimed he belonged to a New York "clique" of MS-13. Garcia has never even lived in New York, but for my money the Bulls hat alone is reason enough to deprive him of his 5th Amendment right to due process. (I mean the Bulls? Seriously?)

You can try to reason with Markk, but he is impervious to reason. Once he has his teeth into something, he never lets go of it, no matter how many ways and how many times you show him he is wrong. Let's face it, Markk assents to the same kind of "evidence" being used to throw him into a Salvadoran gulag. Baffling I know, but there it is. Markk really doesn't believe in the rule of law. He wants to hand over to unchecked Trump people the identification and ejection of "bad hombres" into inhumane conditions.

Oh, I know. My doubling down on the Bulls hat was just my way of trying to find something we could all agree on. (Although I feel a little like I'm stepping on Moksha's lines.)

[Markk]

And again, if you read my link you would have read the the "Gang Field Interview" which memorialized his criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member.

Yes, I'm familiar with those documents. Garcia's "criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member" is that he wore a Chicago Bulls hat and an anonymous source claimed he belonged to a New York "clique" of MS-13. Garcia has never even lived in New York, but for my money the Bulls hat alone is reason enough to deprive him of his 5th Amendment right to due process. (I mean the Bulls? Seriously?)

You are just parroting what you read on social media, I guess. Yes having a Bulls cap is one circumstantial evidence of MS-13 membership, such as this example...



https://www.universalhub.com/2022/ms-13 ... udent-east

There are other evidences like a tattoo of the devil, with horns (the focus), which also complements his affiliation with the gang, and as a ranking member, again in the report. You can google the history of "horns" and Satanic involvement with the gang if you you want to honestly understand their importance to their gang culture. There is exhaustive information about this. There was even a famous Fed Op called "Operation Devils Horns."

In regard the "clique" he is involved with, per the report is the "Westerns clique" ....You said "New York" clique which is not in the report. The Western clique is in NY, and all across the country, and it originated in Los Angeles in the 80's. It was all territorial and they battled 18th street which MS-13 still does today.



Members of the Western Locos clique of the Mara Salvatrucha in the mid-80s in Los Angeles. One of them, Puppet, returned years later to El Salvador and lived in the Amatepec colonia in San Salvador, where he was eventually murdered.

[Bret Ripley]

Yes, I'm familiar with those documents. Garcia's "criminal behavior as a MS-13 gang member" is that he wore a Chicago Bulls hat and an anonymous source claimed he belonged to a New York "clique" of MS-13. Garcia has never even lived in New York, but for my money the Bulls hat alone is reason enough to deprive him of his 5th Amendment right to due process. (I mean the Bulls? Seriously?)

You are just parroting what you read on social media, I guess.

lol. Go to hell, my dude.

[Markk]

Well, So then Kish, and you were wrong....he had and has a criminal record,

Apparently, he did not.

and It does not matter what happened after that point, a protective order does not erase his criminal history from 2019 on.

Congratulations. You’ve reached the point where you’ve started telling people that it doesn’t matter what the law or the courts say, if the government wants to do something different, illegal or unconstitutional.

It’s kind of amazing how easy it is to lead some folks into happily and enthusiastically giving up their civil rights.

Focus, it is in context with Garcia having a criminal history, which Kish did not understand. What does not matter in context to what I wrote is that the protective order does not erase his criminal history.

Does he have a criminal history Cakes?

[¥akaSteelhead]

So, if displaying guns and sports teams paraphernalia is sufficient to get one identified as a gang banger and sent to an El Salvador torture prison, when are we "deporting" these bangers?