Trump is not a fascist

[Markk]

Cakes: In fact, the libertarian CATO Institute determined that Biden’s immigration enforcement focused on and moved more of the hardened criminal element of the immigrant population, as compared to Trump, whose Administration’s focus was deemed less effective. Do you need for me to post that link again, so that you can ignore it and pretend that it doesn’t exist?

Just cut and paste the time and date you pasted the link to me. I looked and I could not find it. And I'll read it and opine.

[Markk]

Cakes: Markk, please. : D Trump himself, and his Administration, can’t even figure out or explain what the hell they’re doing on any given day. Neither can you; you’re sitting there trying to defend the abandonment of due process. What does the Constitution even mean to you, at this point? Whatever Trump wants it to mean that he thinks will get him re-elected a third time?

You might need to find yourself and what you stand for, before presuming that those of us who prefer to follow our Constitution are your problem.

He has a plan and is acting on it. He named certain gangs as terrorist organizations, per the constitution invoked the AEA, which is constitutional. He has aggressively shut down the border, with the help of Mexico, in record time, without excuses and blaming it on congress. He has formed a team of departments that are making a impact by deporting some very bad people. And also because of this plan and his very apparent commitment to it, folks that are here illegally are going back home because of that commitment.

You are making a claim that Biden's plan was much more efficient, so please expound on that plan and the lefts current plan. Keep in mind that border crossings are down over 95% from the Biden years.

What is your plan to do with criminal gang members, who now terrorists, that are being rounded up? Was he wrong in your opinion for naming these gangs as terrorists and a threat to the American people?

[canpakes]

I see that now you’re just going to talk about someone completely different. I can only guess that this is the case because you’re having a very difficult time attending to the actual subject.

No Rachel had her head smashed with rock, how am I talking about someone different? Go back and read what I wrote.

The conversation has been about due process as it relates to the Garcia deportation.

Cut and paste the time and date you pasted the (CATO) link to me. I looked and i could not find it. And I'll read it and opine.

Here’s a link to that report. Grab some coffee, have a read, and opine away. But your argument will be with the CATO Institute.

https://www.cato.org/blog/Trump-release ... um-seekers

[canpakes]

Markk, please. : D Trump himself, and his Administration, can’t even figure out or explain what the hell they’re doing on any given day. Neither can you; you’re sitting there trying to defend the abandonment of due process. What does the Constitution even mean to you, at this point? Whatever Trump wants it to mean that he thinks will get him re-elected a third time?

You might need to find yourself and what you stand for, before presuming that those of us who prefer to follow our Constitution are your problem.

He has a plan and is acting on it. He named certain gangs as terrorist organizations, per the constitution invoked the AEA, which is constitutional. He has aggressively shut down the border, with the help of Mexico, in record time, without excuses and blaming it on congress. He has formed a team of departments that are making a impact by deporting some very bad people. And also because of this plan and his very apparent commitment to it, folks that are here illegally are going back home because of that commitment.

You are making a claim that Biden's plan was much more efficient, so please expound on that plan and the lefts current plan. Keep in mind that border crossings are down over 95% from the Biden years.

What is your plan to do with criminal gang members, who now terrorists, that are being rounded up? Was he wrong in your opinion for naming these gangs as terrorists and a threat to the American people?

Markk, you’ve seen my own thoughts before on immigration and citizenship requirements.

What I am very concerned about is that we remain committed to due process and the rule of law. It’s that simple. None of the stuff above really matters much if we abandon due process.

[¥akaSteelhead]

He has a plan and is acting on it. He named certain gangs as terrorist organizations, per the constitution invoked the AEA, which is constitutional. He has aggressively shut down the border, with the help of Mexico, in record time, without excuses and blaming it on congress. He has formed a team of departments that are making a impact by deporting some very bad people. And also because of this plan and his very apparent commitment to it, folks that are here illegally are going back home because of that commitment.

Here is some of the text of the AEA:

An Act Respecting Alien Enemies

SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government, and the President of the United States shall make public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being males of the age of fourteen years and upwards, who shall be within the United States, and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured and removed, as alien enemies. And the President of the United States shall be, and he is hereby authorized, in any event, as aforesaid, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed, on the part of the United States, towards the aliens who shall become liable, as aforesaid; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject, and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those, who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, shall refuse or neglect to depart therefrom;

Can you show me where it is to be utilized when we are not at a state of declared war, or subject to the invasion of a foreign government?

Can you show me where it enables a president to imprison such male aliens in a 3rd party prison sans criminal trial, rather than expel them from the United States?

Here is the full text of the act.

https://www.archives.gov/milestone-docu ... ition-acts

Show me language where it would indicate this is being utilized in a manner consistent with the language of the act.

[Markk]

He has a plan and is acting on it. He named certain gangs as terrorist organizations, per the constitution invoked the AEA, which is constitutional. He has aggressively shut down the border, with the help of Mexico, in record time, without excuses and blaming it on congress. He has formed a team of departments that are making a impact by deporting some very bad people. And also because of this plan and his very apparent commitment to it, folks that are here illegally are going back home because of that commitment.

You are making a claim that Biden's plan was much more efficient, so please expound on that plan and the lefts current plan. Keep in mind that border crossings are down over 95% from the Biden years.

What is your plan to do with criminal gang members, who now terrorists, that are being rounded up? Was he wrong in your opinion for naming these gangs as terrorists and a threat to the American people?

Markk, you’ve seen my own thoughts before on immigration and citizenship requirements.

What I am very concerned about is that we remain committed to due process and the rule of law. It’s that simple. None of the stuff above really matters much if we abandon due process.

No you haven't, you duck that question every time. I again showed what Trump's plans is, and I understand your concerns. So how would you handle these gangs and what would you do to mitigate this, and what is the plan of folks like the Senator from Maryland.....he and you keep saying it is about due process great, what is the plan to get them into court, and where are you going to keep them during this process?

[Markk]

He has a plan and is acting on it. He named certain gangs as terrorist organizations, per the constitution invoked the AEA, which is constitutional. He has aggressively shut down the border, with the help of Mexico, in record time, without excuses and blaming it on congress. He has formed a team of departments that are making a impact by deporting some very bad people. And also because of this plan and his very apparent commitment to it, folks that are here illegally are going back home because of that commitment.

Here is some of the text of the AEA:

An Act Respecting Alien Enemies

SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government, and the President of the United States shall make public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being males of the age of fourteen years and upwards, who shall be within the United States, and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured and removed, as alien enemies. And the President of the United States shall be, and he is hereby authorized, in any event, as aforesaid, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed, on the part of the United States, towards the aliens who shall become liable, as aforesaid; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject, and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those, who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, shall refuse or neglect to depart therefrom;

Can you show me where it is to be utilized when we are not at a state of declared war, or subject to the invasion of a foreign government?

Can you show me where it enables a president to imprison such male aliens in a 3rd party prison sans criminal trial, rather than expel them from the United States?

Here is the full text of the act.

https://www.archives.gov/milestone-docu ... ition-acts

Show me language where it would indicate this is being utilized in a manner consistent with the language of the act.

"or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States," Trump's opinion as president is that we were being invaded by predators meaning to commit crimes against person and property, and named these gangs as terrorists, which in turn invoked the AEA.

Show me were it does not? And they are expelled from the US, he is paying allies in this war to not only accommodate these animals, but send a message to other terrorists that if they come here this is what may happen to you. The prison there is probably better than many high security prisons here in the US, and certainly safer. And, gangs like 18th street and MS-13, that are not citizens, are in their own countries prison. And, US citizens that are members of these gangs are in, or will hopefully end up in our prison system.

What would be your plan and what is the left's plan to deal with these foreign gangs on US soil?

[¥akaSteelhead]

or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States,"

by any foreign nation or government

Why did you leave that part out of your quote Markk?

Also the act authorized the president to expel; where does it authorize the president to send aliens to be imprisoned in a foreign nation?

[Markk]

or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States,"

by any foreign nation or government

Why did you leave that part out of your quote Markk?

Also the act authorized the president to expel; where does it authorize the president to send aliens to be imprisoned in a foreign nation?

Because there is a comma and continues with 'or.' What I pasted is an alternative, to the prior.

It does not discuss what to do with them; that is just conjecture.

Please answer my question, "What would be your plan and what is the left's plan to deal with these foreign gangs on US soil?"

[¥akaSteelhead]

The act constrains its use to times of war or when being invaded by a foreign government.

This has not occurred.