I don't think I'll answer anything more. I just don't believe you act in good faith around here.
I came to the same conclusion a while ago, and, as a result, have almost completely stopped responding directly to MG.
Unfortunately that means that I sometimes have to leave his implicit (or even explicit) mischaracterizations unanswered. I simply hope that anyone reading his unanswered comments to me can recognise the truth. It's a bit more difficult when he only partly quotes me, but, as my son often says, it is what it is.
by the way, sometimes I find that it helps if I write a reply, save it as a draft, and then delete the draft a few days later [ETA] without posting it.
I was concerned about Stig's response earlier:
So, the next time you arrogantly affirm that "we" (as exmos) never actually believed, why don't you remember me and people like me who desperately wanted it to be true and then lost everything because we just couldn't believe it anymore. While you're at it, you can shove that condescending attitude about this topic straight up your ass. I, and I alone, am the sole expert on how strong my belief was and you have no business, whatsoever, telling my otherwise.
He got it wrong. I didn't "arrogantly affirm" what he said I did. He started off on the wrong foot so my question was simply to try and get him to recalibrate a bit. He then went off and accused me of having a "condescending attitude". Nothing like that.
Implicit characterizations? In the eye of the beholder. I can't control the potential implicit sensitivity...even if it mistaken...on the other end of the communication. His reply was unwarranted and I was a bit taken aback. But at the end of the day if he didn't/doesn't want to respond to an honest inquiry, that's fine.
Interesting that such a big to do is being made of it. Sensitivity training might be an option.
No. That’s factually incorrect. Some lose their faith and belief in God. But the fact is that the majority do not.
You failed to answer a sincere question that I asked you. The question deals directly with the content of Jacob Hansen's video in the OP.
Regards,
MG
You are incapable of asking or answering a question sincerely. I play with you when it suits me.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
I don't think I'll answer anything more. I just don't believe you act in good faith around here.
I came to the same conclusion a while ago, and, as a result, have almost completely stopped responding directly to MG.
Unfortunately that means that I sometimes have to leave his implicit (or even explicit) mischaracterizations unanswered. I simply hope that anyone reading his unanswered comments to me can recognise the truth. It's a bit more difficult when he only partly quotes me, but, as my son often says, it is what it is.
by the way, sometimes I find that it helps if I write a reply, save it as a draft, and then delete the draft a few days later [ETA] without posting it.
The conclusion you and Stig are discussing is well warranted. And the mischaracterizations he makes are seen by all and don't fool anyone. Look at his very last post! He couldn't have illustrated his bent for mischaracterizations any better than if he had asked an A.I. to do it for him.
That's some great missionary work, MG. I think you're finally ready for your senior mission.
As I've said before, I call a spade a spade. Just as I've called you a liar for reasons known to you and have remained unanswered and undefended on your part.
Still waiting on that private message proving that you know me in real life and defending some of the harsh language you used to describe me. As it is, as far as we know...I know...you are a liar and a charlatan. Prove me wrong, have the guts to communicate with me privately and prove that you know me in real life. I'm being kind when I'm making the accusation that you are a liar. I could simply say that you are a lying sack of crap.
That's some great missionary work, MG. I think you're finally ready for your senior mission.
As I've said before, I call a spade a spade. Just as I've called you a liar for reasons known to you and have remained unanswered and undefended on your part.
Still waiting on that private message proving that you know me in real life and defending some of the harsh language you used to describe me. As it is, as far as we know...I know...you are a liar and a charlatan. Prove me wrong, have the guts to communicate with me privately and prove that you know me in real life. I'm being kind when I'm making the accusation that you are a liar. I could simply say that you are a lying sack of crap.
Regards,
MG
I knew it would be just a matter of time before you showed your true colors again. You should really take a break. This place is not good for your mental health. Some people just aren’t cut out to be missionaries or even disciples of Christ.
If you are really being honest about doing missionary work here, you are doing a horrible job. You can do better. You can be better. No need to rage, attack and belittle.
Love you man!
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"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."
As I've said before, I call a spade a spade. Just as I've called you a liar for reasons known to you and have remained unanswered and undefended on your part.
Still waiting on that private message proving that you know me in real life and defending some of the harsh language you used to describe me. As it is, as far as we know...I know...you are a liar and a charlatan. Prove me wrong, have the guts to communicate with me privately and prove that you know me in real life. I'm being kind when I'm making the accusation that you are a liar. I could simply say that you are a lying sack of crap.
Regards,
MG
I knew it would be just a matter of time before you showed your true colors again. You should really take a break.
If you are really being honest about doing Missionary work here, you are not doing a horrible job. You can do better. You can be better. No need to rage, attack and belittle.
I'll be the judge of that. I'm not going to let the words of a liar get in my way. Especially a derelict that claims to have been an LDS Bishop.
MG, why do angry and full of hate? You can do better. You can be better. This is not how missionaries act.
Is what a lifetime of being Mormon has done to you?
I don't dislike you or anyone else on this board. If anything, I have a degree of sympathy for your plight. I would like to actually meet you in real life. Do you live in Utah? Let's meet. I'll treat you to lunch.
Even though I don't dislike you I might get to like you even more. You could win me over through the charm you demonstrate here. What do you say? First, however, you need to P.M. me and show/demonstrate that you are not a liar. Fair enough?
