Trump Bombed Iranian Nuclear Site Fordo Today. Are We in WW 3?

[Dr Exiled]

The question for me, and I'm not ready to do an Internet scrape yet on this topic, how much of this was prompted by some general saying, "we've got to do this now!" and Trump listening, kind of like he listened on vaccines, and how much is prompted by orange irritability and spur-of-the-moment chest thumping. From what I understand, the strike was well-executed and without any accompanying White House buffoonery, suggesting the white house was going along with something rather than planning something. Further, Tulsi Gabbard, who is a Russian-Iran asset and quite possibly taking bribes from both countries, was adamant that there were no concerns to be had with Iran's nuclear program, which strikes me as an obvious lie by somebody on the payrolls of terrorists (a huge plus for many Republican voters who hate America).

So I admit that it's not a settled question in my mind as to the necessity or foolishness of this action. (MAGAs hypocrisy and Trump's accusations about other presidents which were prophecies about himself aside, there is a real state of the world here regarding Iran's nuclear program and the options for dealing with that as they exist today. what that is, I don't know.)

Our intelligence apparatus is complicated to the point of making it difficult to know what exactly to take away from Gabbard's claims and the message that "no one" in the intelligence community was warning that Iran was on the verge of attaining weapon's grade enrichment. I can tell you, as the son of a CIA guy, that plenty of people in the CIA advised against the invasion of Iraq, my dad did not believe it would happen because the advice against it was so clear, and he was very surprised when the CIA was simply ignored and the invasion occurred.

Not surprising given the many different agendas and money to be made through war profits.

[ajax18]

Dr. Camnpp lacks intelligence. He's asserting Trump initiated WW3, and no one, apart from me, challenged him on it.

Gunnar, do you realize that Iran provided a 12-hour notice prior to launching missiles, allegedly aimed at an average target? Can you grasp that it’s quite possible Trump permitted Iran to launch missiles with the assurance of no retaliation, simply so that the Iranian leaders could maintain their image in front of their citizens?

To uncover the truth, it's essential to disregard the opinions of individuals such as Dr. Camnpp and Bishop Schmo. They struggle with self-acceptance and lack an understanding of how to achieve a peaceful and fulfilling existence. They flourish in disorder and contempt. They are unhappy and wish for others to share in their discontent because they lack the insight to create a fulfilling existence.

Gunnar, has World War 3 begun? No! Dr. Camnpp is not very intelligent.

None of the above alters my objections to what Trump is doing nor my high opinion of DocCam in the slightest!

So you still believe we're now in WWW III with Iran as Cam predicted?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

None of the above alters my objections to what Trump is doing nor my high opinion of DocCam in the slightest!

So you still believe we're now in WWW III with Iran as Cam predicted?

You got a source for that “12-hour notice”, Heil of Hitler?

Also, I admit to hyperbole reference the WW3 comment. My bad. See? See how one can admit to an error? I know that’s an impossibility for the idiot MAGAts on this board, but it’s not that hard if you have a shred of self-awareness.

- Doc

I see HeilHitler18 is still doesn’t read. At least he’s on brand.



Where’s the enriched uranium, genius?

- Doc

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Speaking of fantastically retarded, immoral, and evil:



Literally, wtf. The MAGA demons elected this psychopath, twice, who treats the presidency like a WWE match. Evil.

- Doc

[Jersey Girl]

Listening to some stuff online. So..."we" really didn't dick away Iran's nuclear capability and only delayed it?

[ajax18]

So you still believe we're now in WWW III with Iran as Cam predicted?

You got a source for that “12-hour notice”, Heil of Hitler?

Also, I admit to hyperbole reference the WW3 comment. My bad. See? See how one can admit to an error? I know that’s an impossibility for the idiot MAGAts on this board, but it’s not that hard if you have a shred of self-awareness.

- Doc

I see HeilHitler18 is still doesn’t read. At least he’s on brand.



Where’s the enriched uranium, genius?

- Doc

You're lying and playing the race card Cam just as the mainstream media has done repeatedly to the point of losing all credibility with the majority of the American people.

Did it ever strike you as odd that HeilHitler18 as you call me always finds himself on the side of the Jews on this board?

Operation rising lion was 40 years overdue, in my opinion. Hail Benjamin NETANYAHU and hail Donald Trump!

[Physics Guy]

It’s conceivable that the bombing that Trump ordered will turn out to have been a good move. It seems unlikely that it did much to delay Iran’s progress toward nuclear weapons, but it might still have put fear into the Iranian leadership, by reminding them that they are heavily outgunned. The risk is that this fear may actually motivate them to develop or acquire weapons sooner. The bombing may turn out to have been a horrible mistake on Trump’s part.

One thing that surprised me was Hegseth going out of his way to say that Trump’s orders for the mission were clear and forceful. I can’t imagine the Secretary of Defense in any other US Administration feeling the need to say something like that. It ought to go without saying that an American Commander in Chief who decides to attack another country does not do so in vague or weak terms. Telling the world that Trump gave a clear order is like saying he’s a big boy who tied his own shoes today. It’s not actually praise, in the circumstances. It’s the Secretary of Defense feeling obliged to apply childish ego management to the President, and acknowledging that with this President clarity is an accomplishment. It’s disturbing.

[ajax18]

Telling the world that Trump gave a clear order is like saying he’s a big boy who tied his own shoes today.

Or perhaps that he's not a walking corpse serving as a deep state figurehead as was our last President, Joe Biden.

[Gadianton]

One thing that surprised me was Hegseth going out of his way to say that Trump’s orders for the mission were clear and forceful. I can’t imagine the Secretary of Defense in any other US Administration feeling the need to say something like that.

funny, I wouldn't have thought about that, but now it's pointed out-- The mental image it gives me is a cinematic portrayal of an emperor. The entirety of the operation springs forth from the lips of the leader in real time and everyone attends their post knowing exactly what to do. Prior to the lips parting, nothing of the plan existed.

The reality is more like Trump whined and indicated broad intent and asked for options, and when the outline of the option he wished to go with was explained, he was able to confirm "option B", but even if "option C" had been implemented, it might have done just fine; he may not have even remembered the options an our later or which one he picked. I'll bet Hegseth wished Trump had been a little more "clear and forceful" about what he wanted for his birthday parade.

[Morley]

Telling the world that Trump gave a clear order is like saying he’s a big boy who tied his own shoes today.

Or perhaps that he's not a walking corpse serving as a deep state figurehead as was our last President, Joe Biden.

What about Biden or Democrats or Something!?

Right, Ajax?