The Trolley Problem--Nemo the Mormon is back

[Marcus]

Critics, such as yourself, seem to be overly concerned and even fixated on penises. Why is that?

Regards,
MG

Because we is suppozed to keep our little handsies off our little factories. It's the General Authorities who are fixated on penises, not the rest of us. They even have to ask 11 and 12 year olds about them in private interviews MG.......let that sink in....SINK IN.

And they even ask the 12 year olds without penises...

[I Have Questions]

Because we is suppozed to keep our little handsies off our little factories. It's the General Authorities who are fixated on penises, not the rest of us. They even have to ask 11 and 12 year olds about them in private interviews MG.......let that sink in....SINK IN.

Internet conspiracy theories. Very difficult to prove in practice except for isolated stories put out there typically by critics (which may or may not be true), would be my uneducated guess.

I've never known this to be the case in my rather long experience in the church. Never.

But I'm not here to start an argument on this score. If you want to believe what you hear, that's up to you.

Regards,
MG

Are you for real? Even the Church acknowledged it was happening and made the following change:

In March, Church leaders responded to the growing internal pressure by amending guidelines to allow a parent or other adult to accompany children to worthiness interviews, and advising that questions regarding chastity should not be excessive or explicit.

However, campaigners are demanding that the Church go further and bar bishops from asking under-18s any questions of a sexual nature.

And then you cannot tell me you’ve forgotten Packer’s Little Factory talk? One he made to all males from age 12 upwards in a session of Conference and which was reinforced to all 12-18 year olds for 4 decades.

For 40 years, Mormon apostle Boyd K. Packer's advice to teenage boys about their "little factories" was widely distributed inside the LDS Church and widely mocked outside it.

Now the pamphlet "To Young Men Only" — which addressed the issue of masturbation to help boys as they navigate puberty — has been removed from the faith's website and store.LDS.org for ecclesiastical leaders to obtain printed copies.

Packer, who died in 2015, approached the topic during the October 1976 all-male priesthood session of the semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In it, the late apostle used the euphemism "little factory" to describe the male anatomy.

You’re either trying to gaslight the board, or you’re gaslighting yourself.

[MG 2.0]

Internet conspiracy theories. Very difficult to prove in practice except for isolated stories put out there typically by critics (which may or may not be true), would be my uneducated guess.

I've never known this to be the case in my rather long experience in the church. Never.

But I'm not here to start an argument on this score. If you want to believe what you hear, that's up to you.

Regards,
MG

Are you for real? Even the Church acknowledged it was happening and made the following change:

In March, Church leaders responded to the growing internal pressure by amending guidelines to allow a parent or other adult to accompany children to worthiness interviews, and advising that questions regarding chastity should not be excessive or explicit.

However, campaigners are demanding that the Church go further and bar bishops from asking under-18s any questions of a sexual nature.

And then you cannot tell me you’ve forgotten Packer’s Little Factory talk? One he made to all males from age 12 upwards in a session of Conference and which was reinforced to all 12-18 year olds for 4 decades.

For 40 years, Mormon apostle Boyd K. Packer's advice to teenage boys about their "little factories" was widely distributed inside the LDS Church and widely mocked outside it.

Now the pamphlet "To Young Men Only" — which addressed the issue of masturbation to help boys as they navigate puberty — has been removed from the faith's website and store.LDS.org for ecclesiastical leaders to obtain printed copies.

Packer, who died in 2015, approached the topic during the October 1976 all-male priesthood session of the semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In it, the late apostle used the euphemism "little factory" to describe the male anatomy.

You’re either trying to gaslight the board, or you’re gaslighting yourself.

I'm aware of the changes and also Elder Packer's talk. My comment is restricted to my own experience and those that I have associated with over many years.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

Are you for real? Even the Church acknowledged it was happening and made the following change:


And then you cannot tell me you’ve forgotten Packer’s Little Factory talk? One he made to all males from age 12 upwards in a session of Conference and which was reinforced to all 12-18 year olds for 4 decades.


You’re either trying to gaslight the board, or you’re gaslighting yourself.

I'm aware of the changes and also Elder Packer's talk. My comment is restricted to my own experience and those that I have associated with over many years.

Regards,
MG

If you are aware of all that then when you said above that it was all…

Internet conspiracy theories. Very difficult to prove in practice except for isolated stories put out there typically by critics (which may or may not be true), would be my uneducated guess.

I've never known this to be the case in my rather long experience in the church. Never.

But I'm not here to start an argument on this score. If you want to believe what you hear, that's up to you.

You must have been lying. So you were trying to gaslight the board. Please don’t do that again.

[MG 2.0]

I'm aware of the changes and also Elder Packer's talk. My comment is restricted to my own experience and those that I have associated with over many years.

Regards,
MG

If you are aware of all that then when you said above that it was all…

Internet conspiracy theories. Very difficult to prove in practice except for isolated stories put out there typically by critics (which may or may not be true), would be my uneducated guess.

I've never known this to be the case in my rather long experience in the church. Never.

But I'm not here to start an argument on this score. If you want to believe what you hear, that's up to you.

You must have been lying. So you were trying to gaslight the board. Please don’t do that again.

TTOC

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

If you are aware of all that then when you said above that it was all…You must have been lying. So you were trying to gaslight the board. Please don’t do that again.

TTOC

ESMF

[MG 2.0]

TTOC

ESMF

Not sure what you mean by that.

TTOC

[I Have Questions]

Because we is suppozed to keep our little handsies off our little factories. It's the General Authorities who are fixated on penises, not the rest of us. They even have to ask 11 and 12 year olds about them in private interviews MG.......let that sink in....SINK IN.

And they even ask the 12 year olds without penises...

Minors shouldn’t be coerced into having worthiness interviews with an adult male who has no qualification, nor training, for talking to minors about sensitive subjects. It just should not be happening at all. How many kids need to be harmed before the Church gets this?

[Gadianton]

My comment is restricted to my own experience and those that I have associated with over many years.

You probably were much older than 12 when Packer's nonsense got implemented. So you and your age group may not have been direct targets, but as you point out, you knew it was going on with the next gens because you were well aware of the pamphlets. Probably had a whole drawer filled with them.

It was standard fare for bishops to go there. We don't have to read about it on the Internet since we were Chapel Mormons who have been through it many times, basically any time there was a bishop's interview.

The most humorous example I have of the practice occurred during mutual. Remember activity night every Tuesday or Wednesday? For us it was essentially basketball. Well, the current bishop, who was the strictest I'd ever had, made good use of the time by showing up that night to his office to get as many interviews done as he could in preparation for the stake youth baptism for the dead trip. Everyone referred to this guy by his initials, we'll call him HC. So after the first guy came out nearly in tears, everyone is like, "what did HC ask you dude??"

That guy who was first was real quiet about it, he was a rough kid and HC had brought him down a notch. Wasn't very active. But word was getting around as others went in that HC was finding sneaky ways to ask the question. "On a scale of 1 - 10, how well do you live the law of chastity?" No matter what number you say, the next question is, "oh really, why an x instead of a 10?" And if you didn't admit to it that way, then he'd bring it up more directly.

He was a weirdo, but I don't think he was a perv or a bad guy, just very serious about the Lord's work. The brethren had obviously made a huge deal about it with local leaders everywhere, and so he was just trying to be right in the sight of God.

[Moksha]

In it, the late apostle used the euphemism "little factory" to describe the male anatomy.

MG will proudly stand up for Little Factories.