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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Marcus wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:27 pm
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Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:59 am
Yup, that was a threat addressed to Kishkumen, and that was underlined by his later posts. Markk should be suspended for that in my view. Can we have a ruling from the Mods, please?
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Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:05 am
This warrants a ban in my opinion. It’s actually a breach of two important board rules. It contains in real life information and contains an in real life threat. We cannot have posters bringing threats of real life harassment to the board. I’ve reported the post and I think a public notification of what action is taken is also warranted on this occasion.
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Wed Sep 24, 2025 3:40 pm
Yes, he did threaten me twice, and I agree with those who argue that he should be suspended. If he had threatened anyone else in the same way, I would be saying the same thing. Any poster who resorts to thinly veiled threats to the livelihood of others, especially at a time when we know that a number of people are hunting out political opponents for retribution, should be suspended from the board. It is time to "lower the temperature." Sometimes a time-out is the best medicine. Markk is welcome to share his dumb opinions here freely, but when he threatens people, he has worn out his welcome for the time being.
violated our board rules, and I've seen nothing to indicate he won't make another threat. I would also appreciate hearing what is being done to stop this.
Someone saying there is a threat is not proof of an actual threat. I mean, I said Kish was the victim of MAGA and he said he wasn't. See, your interpretation of threats may not be accurate.

That said, do we ban everyone that reveals personal information about a poster, even if the poster publicly revealed the same personal information about themself? If so, that is clever and wild, man. Wild. It's like leaning on the mods to use their authority to ban speech.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Marcus wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:27 pm
Markk violated our board rules, and I've seen nothing to indicate he won't make another threat. I would also appreciate hearing what is being done to stop this
When Dr. Shades asked you to stop calling MG2.0 a fibber, you broke our board rules. He told you straight out that what you were doing was an personal insult to MG2.0, but you decided to ignore him. You're breaking the rules, so why are you whining about Markk here?

Marcus, you not only lie, but you also act like a jerk by following conservatives around like a spoiled kid on the playground, trying to get them in trouble with the teacher. you're a sad person with hate in your heart! Take a break!! Get an actual life that isn't built on hate!
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:39 pm
Marcus wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:27 pm
Markk violated our board rules, and I've seen nothing to indicate he won't make another threat. I would also appreciate hearing what is being done to stop this.
Someone saying there is a threat is not proof of an actual threat. I mean, I said Kish was the victim of MAGA and he said he wasn't. See, your interpretation of threats may not be accurate.

That said, do we ban everyone that reveals personal information about a poster, even if the poster publicly revealed the same personal information about themself? If so, that is clever and wild, man. Wild. It's like leaning on the mods to use their authority to ban speech.
I did not post in this thread but it won't let me delete my post. I want no part of this thread. I was quoting another poster.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:39 pm
That said, do we ban everyone that reveals personal information about a poster, even if the poster publicly revealed the same personal information about themself? If so, that is clever and wild, man. Wild. It's like leaning on the mods to use their authority to ban speech.
I do not talk about my specific employer here. It is one thing to say you are a carpenter. It is another for someone to come in and say, "What if someone who did not like what you are saying contact your employer, Smith & Sons?"

You folks are unreal. You have bullying and deflection down to a science. THAT's what is wild.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:39 pm
When Dr. Shades asked you to stop calling MG2.0 a fibber, you broke our board rules. He told you straight out that what you were doing was an personal insult to MG2.0, but you decided to ignore him. You're breaking the rules, so why are you whining about Markk here?

Marcus, you not only lie, but you also act like a jerk by following conservatives around like a spoiled kid on the playground, trying to get them in trouble with the teacher. you're a sad person with hate in your heart! Take a break!! Get an actual life that isn't built on hate!
Yeah, because calling someone a fibber is equally deleterious to the board as suggesting you will complain to their employer about online comments they made that you don't like. Good grief! You guys are out of your minds.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:56 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:39 pm
That said, do we ban everyone that reveals personal information about a poster, even if the poster publicly revealed the same personal information about themself? If so, that is clever and wild, man. Wild. It's like leaning on the mods to use their authority to ban speech.
I do not talk about my specific employer here. It is one thing to say you are a carpenter. It is another for someone to come in and say, "What if someone who did not like what you are saying contact your employer, Smith & Sons?"

You folks are unreal. You have bullying and deflection down to a science. THAT's what is wild.
Okay. That is a cool grievance. Doesn't answer my question though. If I was lawyer POS, I would point out that the rules don't cover disclosures in podcasts. Kish man, if you don't want something disclosed on here, it shouldn't be. I agree with that. I support that. It is easy to remove and it is a small ask.

That said, GFY because you sure do play hear, see, say no evil when others do it. So yeah. In theory, you are correct. In lawyer speak, there is a loophole. In normal speak, you are not wrong, and likely correct. In being a bitch, you are also correct.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:05 pm
Okay. That is a cool grievance. Doesn't answer my question though. If I was lawyer POS, I would point out that the rules don't cover disclosures in podcasts. Kish man, if you don't want something disclosed on here, it shouldn't be. I agree with that. I support that. It is easy to remove and it is a small ask.
The disclosure is one thing. The threat is another. The one compounds the other. I honestly don't want to operate in an environment where people resort to making threats when they get butthurt about other people's posts. I don't see why anyone else would. Even if this were not a situation I was personally involved in, I would not want this board to become that kind of place. I would be saying the exact same thing. We also do not tolerate people threatening people like DCP, whose employer is also well known. Hell, I don't like the way he is constantly insulted.
That said, GFY because you sure do play hear, see, say no evil when others do it. So yeah. In theory, you are correct. In lawyer speak, there is a loophole. In normal speak, you are not wrong, and likely correct. In being a bitch, you are also correct.
I don't have the time or desire to track every last person's behavior in every way. I am not a mod. I do report posts where people reveal in real life information about others on the board. Regularly. Rules aren't perfect, and they are rarely followed perfectly. That said, they are what human beings have to try to keep things from devolving into chaos. There are several people here whose participation tends to sow chaos, and it is not surprising to me that they appeal to the rules mostly to undermine the board environment.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:16 pm
There are several people here whose participation tends to sow chaos, and it is not surprising to me that they appeal to the rules mostly to undermine the board environment.
On that - we agree.

And if ever there is a serious conversation about it, I would be interested to hear/read.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Whiskey wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:36 pm
On that - we agree.

And if ever there is a serious conversation about it, I would be interested to hear/read.
LOL. Yeah, I have no doubt that you have an interesting and, to my view, inverted perspective on the matter.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:44 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:36 pm
On that - we agree.

And if ever there is a serious conversation about it, I would be interested to hear/read.
LOL. Yeah, I have no doubt that you have an interesting and, to my view, inverted perspective on the matter.
Interesting way to put it. That is a commentary about you too, Kish.
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