Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

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Dr. Shades wrote:
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Already addressed that with Kukulkan, above. They didn’t directly witness the shooting death, only the aftermath of crowd pursuit.
So, as long as you witness a crowd pursuing a kid, you’re magically allowed to try to kill the kid being pursued?
First things first. Rittenhouse was witnessed by some folks who saw him kill Rosenbaum. I’m not convinced that Rittenhouse needed to use deadly force there, let alone fire 4 times in quick succession. He was spotted by others who asked why he shot Rosenbaum, then Rittenhouse ended up trotting down the street with his weapon lowered but forward.

If you assume that folks seeing Rittenhouse and chasing him wanted to kill him rather than just stop/disarm him, then you must also assume that folks viewing Rittenhouse jogging down the street with a firearm at the ready position might likewise believe that he posed a threat to or wanted to kill them. Even if they didn’t witness what they may have heard about.
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Binger wrote:
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Already addressed that with Kukulkan, above. They didn’t directly witness the shooting death, only the aftermath of crowd pursuit.
Addressed what, exactly? Your reliance on faith and hope and a media narrative, or your confusion that you said three people witnessed something and then asked if anyone mentioned witnesses?

When a case is tried in the public arena prior to being tried in court, the prosecutors rely on the media and other influencers to craft and shape the narrative. Then we rely on getting jurors that are influenced by that narrative. You would be perfect for a jury in a case like this, because you retell a story that happened in the media, in your head, or as you hoped it could have happened, without considering the witness testimony and facts. This is the bedrock of political persecution by prosecution. In this particular case, the prosecutors were not persecuting anyone, we were just using polarization to select and influence a jury.
Yeah and what about all the protests the media's ginned up? God only knows how they're taking it in the Deep South. Which reminds me. We love him like honey dripping off a hot buttered biscuit.


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Binger wrote:
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Oh my take? Oh sure. Well, I'm kinda partial to the Telecaster and the guy it's attached to. What's your take?

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So, what guitar are you playing?
Guitar? I thought we were playing wanna see how fast I can “F” your crap up. My mistake.
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Binger wrote:
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Guitar? I thought we were playing wanna see how fast I can F your crap up. My mistake.
Officers of the court can't play that one.
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canpakes wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:19 am
First things first. Rittenhouse was witnessed by some folks who saw him kill Rosenbaum. I’m not convinced that Rittenhouse needed to use deadly force there, let alone fire 4 times in quick succession. He was spotted by others who asked why he shot Rosenbaum, then Rittenhouse ended up trotting down the street with his weapon lowered but forward.

If you assume that folks seeing Rittenhouse and chasing him wanted to kill him rather than just stop/disarm him, then you must also assume that folks viewing Rittenhouse jogging down the street with a firearm at the ready position might likewise believe that he posed a threat to or wanted to kill them. Even if they didn’t witness what they may have heard about.
Yeah, it’s a real cluster eff. If only people had not behaved like a bunch of freaking idiots from the beginning. Too bad the guys Kyle shot were stupid fools looking to get hurt or play hero. Too bad Kyle thought it was a good idea to look for the trouble he got. He’s lucky he made it out alive. Had his targets been armed or better with their weapons, he could be dead.

But don’t you think, at the end of the day, that the verdict was correct? I mean, considering what he was charged with and what was allowed into evidence. Kyle may be a racist asshole. Flashing white power signs is not a good look. I think he probably is into that white power crap. He is, you know, kind of a young stupid loser looking to feel big and tough.

But that is no reason to say the kid is actually guilty of murder, no? And every time someone says, “Ya but . . . ,” usually what follows is a very tenuous argument that strains to make Kyle out to be something other than a stupid kid looking to be a tough guy who got in over his head. If I am on the jury, and I am asking myself if Kyle was guilty of murder beyond a reasonable doubt when guys a decade or more older than him were attacking him, well, I think it is a no brainer. There is all kinds of reasonable doubt. No one deserves to have their life destroyed for being a young, dumb kid with grotesque opinions.

I think the jury was right. I think political pressure forced a prosecutor to charge Kyle inappropriately. I think justice was done BECAUSE Kyle was a stupid kid attacked by stupid men. I am sorry those guys lost their lives. Honestly. Justice won’t be done by convicting Kyle of murder, even though there is no way in hell he should have been there brandishing an AR-15.
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Binger wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:52 am
canpakes wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:19 am
He was spotted by others who asked why he shot Rosenbaum,
Multiple people asked him this? Who?

This is good information for the prosecution.

Refer back to Kukulkan’s link at the 19:00 mark.
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canpakes wrote:
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??? Rosenbaum was a pedophile, and the GOP doesn’t seem to like him one bit.
I don’t think that Rittenhouse knew anything at all about his victims at the point which he shot them.
The point wasn't whether Rittenhouse knew his attackers were all convicted felons with extensive criminal histories (including jump kick man, it turns out. Surprise!). The point was whether the GOP likes pedophiles or not.
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