Making Covenants

[MG 2.0]

Wow, this thread went way off track.

I’ll try to get it back on track after doing some more reading in Muhlestein’s book. As it is, there are some members of The Borg that have other ideas…

Seemingly not all that interested in covenantal relationships with God at all and what that might mean.

A god unto themselves? If so, that would permit them to say and do whatever they want with no consequences. I would hope this is NOT the case.

But who knows?

By the way, I am in NO way insinuating that everyone besides me on this forum is part of The Borg. Not at all. I should make that crystal clear.

But there seems to be a clear pattern among a select few.

If we can, let’s discuss covenants and the importance which they can play in bringing people to a better place.

Interested?

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

... As it is, I don't believe MG acts in good faith...

agreed.

...I've come to think that each time he posts, MG damages the Mormon religion I grew up in.

and absolutely agreed.

The Borg acts as One.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Think what you will.

By the way, what’s baked into YOU? What kind of person ARE you? You come across as a rather mean grumpy old man.

Regards,
MG

Well, Mormons protect Mormons who “F” kids, believe in a woman called Egyptus who discovered Egypt, and can’t seem to stop damned lying about the most mundane crap instead of just owning it, apologizing for it, and stopping the lying. Tends to make a dude grumpy when he sees someone lying his ass off for twenty years and then acting like he’s enlightened. Absurd.

- Doc

Think what you will.

Again, what’s baked into you? Are you a decent, upright human being? How am I to know?

Matthew 7
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Are you a hypocrite?

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

no surprise. all we can do is ignore, or continue to point it out.

MG meanders some and makes some generalized statement and a whole posse comes after him in attack mode.He dodges deflects and hopes to survive and any hope of a conversation on the subject matter drowns.He is close to being the only representative of a point of view of significance to this board (an actual Mormon believer).One could wish he wouldn't get tangled up but I see little point in the gang attack.

I do meander sometimes.

And I do have a point of view.

Posse=The Borg

Regards,
MG

[Gadianton]

I can understand Quinn and the Tanners, but Karen Armstrong, Jared Diamond, Pinker's mind-modularity stuff, and B.F Skinner? This is all material that qualifies for general education about the world. It almost sounds like you're saying that "secular learning" is bad, and we should totally focus on Christ.

You were a teacher, right? So you're honest opinion here. Granted, These four writers don't have much for grade-schoolers, but certainly they could be encountered in High School; in history or psychology classes. In high school, LDS kids have about 7 regular classes along with one seminary class. Would it be better to flip that? Have 7 classes focusing on Mormon topics and apologetics, and one class that covers secular learning? Or maybe just eliminate secular learning all together?

[MG 2.0]

Or he could just stop lying in all its forms, Huck. He’s been doing this shtick for over twenty years, and people are sick of his crap.

- Doc

Assimilate Huck. You must.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

He is close to being the only representative of a point of view of significance to this board (an actual Mormon believer).One could wish he wouldn't get tangled up but I see little point in the gang attack.

I also wish M.G. wouldn't get tangled up, but it's obviously hard for him keeping track of all of his lies.

M.G. in real life is definitely not what most people would call an actual Mormon believer.

Speaking of lies…

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

MG meanders some and makes some generalized statement and a whole posse comes after him in attack mode.He dodges deflects and hopes to survive and any hope of a conversation on the subject matter drowns.He is close to being the only representative of a point of view of significance to this board (an actual Mormon believer).One could wish he wouldn't get tangled up but I see little point in the gang attack.

what you may not be aware of are the execrable attacks on posters here that Mentalgymnast has engaged in for an extremely long time. as one example, there was a well respected and universally liked poster, now passed away, who was open about his in real life and posted his research, including papers accepted at various places and invitations to speak. Mentalgymnast was relentlessly vicious FOR YEARS AND YEARS in his stalking of this person and his degradation of their work, apparently because his research went against mg's assumptions about the 'rightness' of Mormonism. Most here did everything possible to protect this person, but MG 2.0 never stopped. i am not surprised at all that multiple people now object to mentalgymnast's continued disingenuousness, after all the damage he caused.

I view those days with much different eyes than you. But to each his/her own.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

OK. I think I’ve responded to all attacks coming from multiple firing points.

Flak.

Are we able to move on yet? Some of you seem to almost have a fetish towards backbiting and finding fault. Is this what happens after leaving Mormonism? I hope not. If so, I would want nothing to do with it. It’s toxic to the soul.

And this is why active and believing members of the church often stay away from places like this.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

I can understand Quinn and the Tanners, but Karen Armstrong, Jared Diamond, Pinker's mind-modularity stuff, and B.F Skinner? This is all material that qualifies for general education about the world. It almost sounds like you're saying that "secular learning" is bad, and we should totally focus on Christ.

You were a teacher, right? So you're honest opinion here. Granted, These four writers don't have much for grade-schoolers, but certainly they could be encountered in High School; in history or psychology classes. In high school, LDS kids have about 7 regular classes along with one seminary class. Would it be better to flip that? Have 7 classes focusing on Mormon topics and apologetics, and one class that covers secular learning? Or maybe just eliminate secular learning all together?

I’m all for secular learning. I’m a big fan. I’m also a fan of balance. So whatever meets that balance, I’m in favor of.

Growing up, fortunately, I lived in an environment where there was a bit more of that balance than in more traditional homes.

Wow. An actual question. Yay! Thanks.

Gadianton, I hope my rather long reply to you a number of pages back helped you understand me a little bit better. I tried to go into some detail. It all got covered and hidden up by The Borg.

I made a mistake even bringing up Pinker. My bad.

Regards,
MG