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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:57 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:56 am
Here?
Yes, I've been saying this for a while now. Look how many Muslims Democrats have brought into the country. Better yet, look at hard you fought Trump's efforts to keep radical Islamic terrorists out of the US.
Show me the evidence more "Muslims" came to America during Biden and Obama than they did during Trump.

I'll wait.

Trump wanted to make a blanket denial of all Muslims, which is unconstitutional and immoral, which is why Democrats opposed it.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:22 pm
At this point, I can't call Joe Biden Jimmy Carter 2.0. Though his policies have produced similar results, he's far worse. High, gasoline prices, inflation, debt, war with Russia, and war in the Middle east. At least Jimmy didn't leave our southern border wide open. And at least Jimmy wasn't brought and paid for by Ukraine, Romania, and the CCP.

Inflation was at its highest under Republican Nixon, and gasoline was at its highest under Republican Bush.

You sound like an idiot.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:29 pm
Why do we want to save the nation that is burning us up with space lasers, Ajax?
I'm a Mormon. I believe I'm adopted into the tribe of Ephraim. I believe my Lord Jesus Christ is not very happy about what the Palestinians have done. When He returns many people will be surprised when chooses not to turn the other cheek this time round. Israel hasn't asked us to save them. They've only asked the world to allow them to save themselves and we've continued to hold them back from this only to see the same cycle repeat itself over and over again.
That's a lot of words just to say, "I'm an idiot."
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Vēritās wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:29 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:54 pm
And look who gave Iran the cash to do all this.
Repeating this lie still?

This wasn't "cash." It is an account of unfrozen funds in Qatar that can only be used for emergency/medical/humanitarian needs and not a single penny has been spent.
He’s probably conflating this:

https://time.com/4441046/400-million-ir ... e-history/

with whatever current lies the GOP’ers are pushing these days.

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:40 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:32 pm
Trust me you have no idea what it's like in my head right now :shock: . Historical matter, maps, political mechanisms, the underpinnings of the varying religious views involved, the blow by blow of the day and how it fits in and all this time I'm running prophecy in my head as a companion topic which also means not only examining Biblical covenants, prophecy, fulfillment, but also word translations in Hebrew, symbolism, and how the Jewish folks rely on the Old Testament but not completely, and if I ever wrap my head around the Quran I'll be doing good.

It's a jungle in this head right now. Several "tapes" running at the same time.

And with regard to to the religious/cultural matter, I firmly believe that if we don't understand the religious perspectives then we can't fully comprehend the primary motivations behind who is doing what to whom and why.

This war intersected another study I had started off on and so I shifted course.

I'm trying! Maybe if I can wrap my head around all the ingredients I can come up with a position or a coherent contribution or maybe...a cake! :lol:
Good luck with the Quran. I tried to read it after 9/11. In the version I bought, the chapters were arranged by length. I simply could not get a grasp on what it was saying.

Cake would be a win.
Now you know what I felt like when I started to read the Book of Mormon.

I've been trying to find the name (the pronunciation of which I only have phonetically at the moment) of a dry river bed to the west of the Nile--maybe in the area of the Gaza strip. It would likely mark the southern-ish border of Israel as stated in the Old Testament and I'm wondering if the end goal of the Israelis is to reclaim what they see as the original borders given to the Hebrews. Popular interpretation is that the river is the Nile but there is a dry river bed in the area that could likely be considered the original border of the land which I heard a Jewish scholar say that Israel has never lived within those original borders so...is that what they're after?

I don't get the feeling that Israel is trying to simply drive out Hamas as payback for their attack. I think they want to re-establish those borders.

I could be wrong but that is my current thinking re: Israeli motivations.

From my handwritten notes: Wadi Alaryish is the dry river bed. I don't have the precise spelling. I'll find it eventually. It might be this: Wadi al-Arayis but it's in the wrong location. It could be Wadi el-Arish. The names in that area are mind boggling. Still learning.
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I guess we'll find out some day
No we won't find out one day, just like we won't find out if one day Zeus will return with a bolt of lighting or if John F. Kennedy will return to be Donald Trump's vice president.

Sadly for you, this is the one thing Ben Shapiro is right about.
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What is my life about anyway? :shock:

This is the area I referred to as the dry river bed. Confirmed by my notes and an additional mention (Kardesh Barnea from my notes) that is in the piece below. I'm so in over my head it's not even funny at this point. Fortunately, I think I can learn to swim.

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So here is a question for the teeming masses. Will Israel be ultimately charged with war crimes?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:58 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:03 am
How much will it cost the American taxpayer?
Pennies to dollars if we do nothing.

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But if we do nothing it'll cost the taxpayers $0.
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:53 pm
I've been trying to find the name (the pronunciation of which I only have phonetically at the moment) of a dry river bed to the west of the Nile--maybe in the area of the Gaza strip.
But the Gaza strip is east of the Nile.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:36 am
But if we do nothing it'll cost the taxpayers $0.
A large scale war in the Middle East would threaten vital US interests in trade and military terms, both locally and globally. That would cost a lot more than the kind of early intervention that could make such a general war less likely.
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