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Re: Prediction: Bye, Bye, Biden

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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:11 pm
When facing a real problem (Biden in this case) you must accept that there is a problem first.
Cool. So when are you going to accept that Trump is a problem?
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I for one look forward to having a candidate that is mentally fit to call out the nonstop flow of Trump's BS. I will be especially glad to see a woman do it, because that will drive Trump insane (because he hates women)
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:25 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:11 pm
When facing a real problem (Biden in this case) you must accept that there is a problem first.
Cool. So when are you going to accept that Trump is a problem?
I'm going to take the blame here and say that I am a very poor communicator.

Let me try this another way:

The Superbowl is coming fairly soon. The quarterback's throwing arm for one team is healthy and ready to go. The quarterback's throwing arm for the other team is broken and he can't throw a football more than two feet. This scenario suggests nothing about either quarterback's spouse, or their spending habits, or their views on the border, or their intelligence, or their character, or their hair style. It is completely silent on all of those things. The only thing it suggests is that one of the quarterbacks has a broken arm.

If you were the coach of the team with the broken armed QB, what, if anything, would you do about this quarterback problem? As you consider what you would do, keep in mind that the game is being played very soon and your team has millions of fans.
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:38 pm
I'm going to take the blame here and say that I am a very poor communicator.

Let me try this another way:

The Superbowl is coming fairly soon. The quarterback's throwing arm for one team is healthy and ready to go. The quarterback's throwing arm for the other team is broken and he can't throw a football more than two feet. This scenario suggests nothing about either quarterback's spouse, or their spending habits, or their views on the border, or their intelligence, or their character, or their hair style. It is completely silent on all of those things. The only thing it suggests is that one of the quarterbacks has a broken arm.

If you were the coach of the team with the broken armed QB, what, if anything, would you do about this quarterback problem? As you consider what you would do, keep in mind that the game is being played very soon and your team has millions of fans.
Yeah, the main problem with this analogy is you think Trump's arm is good to go, which is pure insanity and an obvious denial of reality.

Please, if you're going to preach about accepting reality, being an actual example might help.
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Re: Prediction: Bye, Bye, Biden

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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:45 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:38 pm
I'm going to take the blame here and say that I am a very poor communicator.

Let me try this another way:

The Superbowl is coming fairly soon. The quarterback's throwing arm for one team is healthy and ready to go. The quarterback's throwing arm for the other team is broken and he can't throw a football more than two feet. This scenario suggests nothing about either quarterback's spouse, or their spending habits, or their views on the border, or their intelligence, or their character, or their hair style. It is completely silent on all of those things. The only thing it suggests is that one of the quarterbacks has a broken arm.

If you were the coach of the team with the broken armed QB, what, if anything, would you do about this quarterback problem? As you consider what you would do, keep in mind that the game is being played very soon and your team has millions of fans.
Yeah, the main problem with this analogy is you think Trump's arm is good to go, which is pure insanity and an obvious denial of reality.

Please, if you're going to preach about accepting reality, being an actual example might help.
I give up.
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Re: Prediction: Bye, Bye, Biden

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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:47 pm
I give up.
Yep. A long time ago.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:27 am
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Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:11 am
As far as I know, there is no process that says that if a sitting President withdraws from the race, the sitting Vice President takes his place. If Biden stays in the race, there is no process that requires him to pick Harris as a running mate.

I believe the process is this: If Biden withdraws, he releases his delegates. He can ask them to vote for Harris, but they have no obligation to do so.

Because Ohio has refused to give the customary waiver to its ballot deadline, the nominee must be selected before the convention. So, no floor fight unless Democrats choose to concede Ohio in August.

There have been too many black swans for me to make any sort of prediction, but I think Schumer’s call for Biden to step down is the most significant signal yet.
My Harris prediction is not in reference to an established procedure. It is based on the prevalence of her name in the media conversation, the tendency of VP’s to run after the end of their president’s final term, and her connection to the Biden-Harris successes.

I agree with you on Schumer. I think Pelosi and Schiff are also important. Schiff because of his public role pursuing Trump for J6.
One correction. I read this morning that the Ohio legislature passed a bill that would allow the Democratic candidate to be on the ballot despite its deadline. That being the case, there is no good reason to nominate someone before the convention.
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Re: Prediction: Bye, Bye, Biden

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:00 pm
One correction. I read this morning that the Ohio legislature passed a bill that would allow the Democratic candidate to be on the ballot despite its deadline. That being the case, there is no good reason to nominate someone before the convention.
Thanks for that, Res. I still think the nominee will be Harris and that Harris will lose. This is not what I want. Ultimately, I just want Donald Trump to lose.
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Re: Prediction: Bye, Bye, Biden

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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:03 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:00 pm
One correction. I read this morning that the Ohio legislature passed a bill that would allow the Democratic candidate to be on the ballot despite its deadline. That being the case, there is no good reason to nominate someone before the convention.
Thanks for that, Res. I still think the nominee will be Harris and that Harris will lose. This is not what I want. Ultimately, I just want Donald Trump to lose.
Michelle Obama is the only Democrat I can think of that might be able to pull off a win this close to the election, but has said on a few occasions she has no interest in the job. If they're intent on replacing Biden, they should have Michelle be the front woman for the campaign and let her step aside for Harris after inauguration.

And yes, I realize this is pure fantasy.
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Re: Prediction: Bye, Bye, Biden

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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:26 pm
Michelle Obama is the only Democrat I can think of that might be able to pull off a win this close to the election, but has said on a few occasions she has no interest in the job. If they're intent on replacing Biden, they should have Michelle be the front woman for the campaign and let her step aside for Harris after inauguration.

And yes, I realize this is pure fantasy.
If they are going for popularity, Michelle is the answer, but that ain’t gonna happen.
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