Election Day 1

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canpakes wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:30 pm
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Does he control more of those things now than before he started the war in Ukraine?
Yes. That was the point.
Really? Has anyone noticed a difference?
But there’s still a whole lot more of Ukraine to add to his pile of loot.
And after two and a half years of war he’s no closer to obtaining it now than he was on day one.
And Ukrainians haven’t decided to simply hand it over quite yet just because he wants it.
Good! Then NATO is no longer necessary for the U.S.A.
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Dwight wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:31 pm
One hope is Trump 2 is as incompetent at evil as the first time around. My folks don't rely on social security, my nephews and nieces are starting to have kids so banning all vaccines could be really bad, but we will see if that gets followed through. I guess we will see how the 10% tariffs play out and how the economy does. I don't know what is worse, if it is just meh with the economy we can keep on going down this path. Vance might be taking over at some point, though I'm sure he will pardon Trump, so the guy won't face any consequences beyond pretty much what he has. If the economy does get bad enough then Democrats will probably get enough votes to overcome any Republican obstacles.
I guess the only potential bright spot is that, unlike his first term where every day was a re-election rally, this time, as lame duck, (hopefully) he won't feel the need to be an extraordinary schmuck. Just a regular one.
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I see little reason to hope without committing to the fight. It will take a fight. People need to fight by becoming more politically active. They need to exercise courage in the face of oppression. What Black Americans did in the 1960s needs to be emulated by all pro-democracy Americans in the 2020s.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
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Exactly that.

There will be no 50% reduction in energy costs as Trump has promised. No significant reduction in food costs. Housing prices aren’t coming down more than 10% without a recession forcing a greater reduction. None of that can be changed through Trump Administration policy. He knows that, and I suspect that a good portion of his voter base also subconsciously knows it, but the lie of all of that is a comfortable blanket, and his supporters will wrap themselves within it and embrace it. Excuses will follow, most manufactured by Trump’s donor base, to keep the Trump voter base compliant and manipulated.
Well, I think the people want populist policies and the donors don't, donors on both sides. I think this is the underlying theme and has been from as far back as I can see.
The Democrats just vaporized $2.1 billion in this election.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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msnobody wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:59 pm
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For the second time, Trump will inherit a strong economy from a Democratic administration. The first time around, he didn’t monkey with it much. This time you’ll get to see him drive it into the ditch up close and personal.

But you already know that, which is why you are making advance excuses for Trump the day after the election.
The economy isn’t looking good when I drive through large shopping centers here with vacant storefront after vacant storefront.

One thing to consider is that e-commerce has contributed to the trend in disappearing brick-and a-mortar stores. That trend has been in place for a while.

“Between 2011 and 2021 (the latest 10-year period with available data from the Census Bureau), the U.S. lost 60,000 retail stores, marking a 12.6% decline in the number of stores per capita …
The pandemic played a part in accelerating a major trend that has impacted the sector in recent years: the growing shift toward e-commerce, and the decline of brick-and-mortar retail.”


https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/cit ... 547358.php#

Neither Trump, nor anyone or anything else aside from consumer preference, is going to change that.
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Neither Trump, nor anyone or anything else aside from consumer preference, is going to change that.
wrong. Trump will fix it. The sign says so.
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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:52 am
The Democrats just vaporized $2.1 billion in this election.
So, according to your predictably “brilliant analysis” none of that money paid the wages of Americans who will spend that money in America to pay the salaries of Americans who will buy American goods and services. It was just lit on fire and did nothing in the economy. Or, wait, yes, you are an effing moron. The latter is much more believable.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:40 am
ajax18 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:52 am
The Democrats just vaporized $2.1 billion in this election.
So, according to your predictably “brilliant analysis” none of that money paid the wages of Americans who will spend that money in America to pay the salaries of Americans who will buy American goods and services. It was just lit on fire and did nothing in the economy. Or, wait, yes, you are an effing moron. The latter is much more believable.
All the propaganda money could buy couldn't beat our rag tag and poorly funded movement. Let that sink in for a bit. Gone is the Reublican party of country club elites. Hello to MAGA, the party of the working man and woman
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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:30 am
All the propaganda money could buy couldn't beat our rag tag and poorly funded movement. Let that sink in for a bit. Gone is the Reublican party of country club elites. Hello to MAGA, the party of he working man and woman
Let's stay on topic, Ajax. You said the money was evaporated. Do you stand by that? Let's look at this more broadly and include all of that cheesy Trump merch in the campaigning money spent. Are you saying that the working man and woman were not involved in that? Did not profit from it? Did not buy it? What makes your propaganda machine more virtuous than the Democrat propaganda machine? The MAGA version was significantly funded by the richest man on the planet, Elon Musk. What's virtuous or working person about that?
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msnobody wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:59 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:17 pm

For the second time, Trump will inherit a strong economy from a Democratic administration. The first time around, he didn’t monkey with it much. This time you’ll get to see him drive it into the ditch up close and personal.

But you already know that, which is why you are making advance excuses for Trump the day after the election.
The economy isn’t looking good when I drive through large shopping centers here with vacant storefront after vacant storefront.
“The economy” is the national economy, which is strong. Stronger than almost every other country in the world. The problem you are referring to is how that wealth is distributed. Today, even after discounting for inflation, the national economy is producing more wealth per person than it ever has. That doesn’t mean that wealth Is distributed evenly across the nation.

The National economy today is about as good as it gets. Trump can’t make it better, but he can screw out up. If he follows through on his campaign promises, he’ll screw out u up very badly.
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