huckelberry wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:47 pm
Hound of Heaven wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:47 pm
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What are the culturally
unique needs of white individuals that are being ignored?
Wrogressive views as adversaries.
In my opinion, along with many other Democrats, the progressive movement appears to be attempting to impose socialism on America, and I will not permit that to occur. Disagreeing with progressive socialism does not equate to being a MAGA supporter.
https://diem25.org/progressives-must-fa ... rats-loss/
This article provides a clear explanation of how progressives perceive the broader Democratic Party. I encourage you to review it, as it outlines the extent of the progressives' disdain for the remainder of the party and details their efforts to shift the rest of the party towards socialism. This article clearly articulates how many moderate democrats, like myself, perceive the far-left progressives attempting to dominate the party. If I have misunderstood this article, I would appreciate an explanation of how I am misinterpreting the progressive values presented within it.
It is important to note that the article presents the perspective that liberalism has not succeeded. As someone with liberal views, what should my perspective be on that? Later in the article, the progressive perspective suggests that liberalism is an outdated ideology that fails to provide anything of significance and should be discarded.
Hound, I am puzzled by your presenting this article. It complains that the Democratic party is not doing what you fear it is doing. You should not be surprised by the existence of such anti liberal voices. They have long been around. I remember reading such in the late 60s. Such views were not new then. I do not have a beginning date but I feel the article is the same old song and dance being sung by those elements for the past hundred years.
I suppose there is some reason some folks feel white men are being disregarded by Democratic party. I am not entirely sure why. There appears to be quite a few white males in the party.
Politics often lacks fairness, and in many instances, your identity is shaped more by your opponent's portrayal than by your true self. That being noted, progressive perspectives like the idea that everyone except white individuals are victims of colonialism, the inclusion of transwomen in female sports teams, the 1619 Project, DEI initiatives, and various other concepts, enabled Trump to characterize the entire Democratic Party as a group of progressives who despise America. The combination of that and an open border enabled Trump and the Republicans to take control of the 2024 election.
In the coming years, history will regard former democrat Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter as a pivotal moment in American politics for this century. Do you recall the stick figure meme that Elon posted on Twitter which illustrated stick figures along an ideological spectrum? One of the stick figures was labeled Me, indicating Elon. The "me" stick figure appears to be stationary, while the ground around him shifts. The stick figure that begins in 2008 on the left side of the center line ultimately shifts to a right-leaning conservative position by 2021. Upon closer examination of the meme, it becomes clear that Elon is expressing that he has remained constant, while the environment surrounding him has shifted. He attributes the shifting ground around him to the influence of woke progressives. Following the meme's posting, Elon tweeted, I strongly supported Obama for president, but today's Democratic Party has been hijacked by extremists. A few days later, he posted another tweet stating, "the far left hates everyone, themselves included." The meme and those two tweets sent the far left into a complete frenzy, leading them to become utterly unhinged as they realized that Elon buying Twitter signaled the end of traditional media as we have known it throughout our lives.
Having experienced a overwhelming loss in the election, we are now faced with several options. We have the option to shift further to the radical left and fully embrace woke culture, or we can gravitate towards the center to attract more moderate Democrats in the upcoming election, as well as some Republicans who might be open to crossing party lines to support Democrats. Which option do you believe will result in a greater number of votes for the Democrats?
At any moment when Elon began to consider leaving the party, there ought to have been a queue of notable Democrats at his door, inquiring about his feelings toward the party and making efforts to persuade him to remain, so he could assist in addressing the issues he perceived as problematic. However, that did not occur because once Elon began to challenge the party and its shift towards the far left, he was labeled a nazi, a racist, a fascist, and subjected to every other derogatory term the far left employs to tarnish someone's reputation when they have the audacity to question progressivism.
In deed, I hold the progressives responsible for driving significant figures away from our party and into the embrace of Donald Trump. The progressive movement undeniably employs aggressive tactics to coerce individuals into embracing their far-left agenda. The article I provided illustrates how progressives are unwilling to collaborate with anyone, including their fellow Democrats, to advance their agenda. I share Elon’s perspective that the progressive movement can, in a way, compel individuals to harbor self-hatred. It’s crucial for the progressives on the board to grasp this point. As someone who identifies as a center-left democrat, or what I refer to as a JFK democrat, I was mindful while writing my thoughts of how the progressives on the board might attempt to frame my perspective. It seems that individuals like Molok often resort to name-calling and labeling others as racist, fascist, or bigoted when faced with opinions that diverge from their progressive ideology. In the moment, that might be cathartic but ultimately that attitude pushes people away, personally and politically.
To conclude this post, here’s my final thought. In recent years, we have seen the departure of several notable Democrats who have now become leading conservative influencers. Even Tim Pool, who somewhat identifies as an independent-leaning Democrat, is so fed up with the far left that he voted for Trump. Following the election, other Democrats like Steven A. Smith, Charlamagne tha God, Bill Maher, and several other influencers are beginning to express sentiments that suggest they may consider leaving the party and possibly aligning with MAGA. The Republicans have established a network of influencers that the Democrats struggle to match. Each day, the conservative influencers who currently dominate independent media will continue to remind their audience that the strategy of far-left progressives is to compel individuals to accept their woke ideology, that it's the only way forward. It is irrelevant whether the claims are accurate, as progressives often react defensively, labeling critics as racist or bigoted when negative discussions arise about their agenda. This response can create an impression that they feel compelled to coerce acceptance of their far-left views through guilt. Progressivism survives only when it has control of people who influence the masses. It's not a winning strategy. No one likes a bully.
