Formal Mormon Theology

[I Have Questions]

God cannot create sentient and independent beings who are all 'naturally' good.

If your God cannot do that then he isn’t a God. Your God supposedly created Jesus Christ, are you saying your Lord and Saviour wasn’t all “naturally” good?

[Mag’ladroth]

God cannot create sentient and independent beings who are all 'naturally' good.

If your God cannot do that then he isn’t a God. Your God supposedly created Jesus Christ, are you saying your Lord and Saviour wasn’t all “naturally” good?

MG’s responses are why I say LDS theology is entirely unsystematic.

[MG 2.0]

God cannot create sentient and independent beings who are all 'naturally' good.

If your God cannot do that then he isn’t a God. Your God supposedly created Jesus Christ, are you saying your Lord and Saviour wasn’t all “naturally” good?

No. Sometimes you amaze/disappoint me, IHQ.

I gave you more credit than what might be due.

I'm not meaning to be rude as much as just plain disheartened.

Regards
MG

[Marcus]

If your God cannot do that then he isn’t a God. Your God supposedly created Jesus Christ, are you saying your Lord and Saviour wasn’t all “naturally” good?

MG’s responses are why I say LDS theology is entirely unsystematic.

No argument there.

[MG 2.0]

MG’s responses are why I say LDS theology is entirely unsystematic.

No argument there.

I wouldn't say entirely. Would you like to propose and lay out why you believe LDS theology is entirely unsystematic since you're agreeing to support this claim?

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

If your God cannot do that then he isn’t a God. Your God supposedly created Jesus Christ, are you saying your Lord and Saviour wasn’t all “naturally” good?

No. Sometimes you amaze/disappoint me, IHQ.

I gave you more credit than what might be due.

I'm not meaning to be rude as much as just plain disheartened.

Regards
MG

Okay, so explain how I’ve misunderstood your assertion that Mormon “God cannot create sentient and independent beings who are all 'naturally' good.”

[MG 2.0]

No. Sometimes you amaze/disappoint me, IHQ.

I gave you more credit than what might be due.

I'm not meaning to be rude as much as just plain disheartened.

Regards
MG

Okay, so explain how I’ve misunderstood your assertion that Mormon “God cannot create sentient and independent beings who are all 'naturally' good.”

Are you "naturally good"? Naturally bad? Somewhere in between?

Can you picture yourself being any other way than what you are? Created differently? Would you want that?

You are who you are with all your faults and strengths.

You're not alone. What and who we are is out of God's control EXCEPT for the fact that He has given commandments and laws that CAN help us to change our natures to become more like he is.

He cannot create us in perfected form. We are a product of biology and what we came with...and then we interact with our environment. Lots of moving parts. In a world of chaotic interactions. God cannot control everything that happens.

But He can allow for what happens and correct for it.

Atonement of Jesus Christ.

Regards,
MG

[huckelberry]

God cannot create sentient and independent beings who are all 'naturally' good.

If your God cannot do that then he isn’t a God. Your God supposedly created Jesus Christ, are you saying your Lord and Saviour wasn’t all “naturally” good?

This particular tangle is part of the reason traditional Christianity came to think Jesus or the divine in him is not a created being. It might be a bit unclear just how LDS thought works on the question. Perhaps for LDS the divine is eternal and incarnate in human for both father and son.

[huckelberry]

If your God cannot do that then he isn’t a God. Your God supposedly created Jesus Christ, are you saying your Lord and Saviour wasn’t all “naturally” good?

This particular tangle is part of the reason traditional Christianity came to think Jesus or the divine in him is not a created being. It might be a bit unclear just how LDS thought works on the question. Perhaps for LDS the divine is eternal and incarnate in human for both father and son.

I think Ego is inclined to thinking of the eternal dimension of divine as being beyond personal but being laws like the laws of physics. The personal aspect being entirely in the human personages in which it is incarnate. I do not see how volition and power fit together here. Volition from the human but divine power seems a puzzle.

Well there is the more traditional view that the fundamental power, God, is volitional and eternal not derived from a source.

[I Have Questions]

Okay, so explain how I’ve misunderstood your assertion that Mormon “God cannot create sentient and independent beings who are all 'naturally' good.”

Are you "naturally good"? Naturally bad? Somewhere in between?

Can you picture yourself being any other way than what you are? Created differently? Would you want that?

You are who you are with all your faults and strengths.

You're not alone. What and who we are is out of God's control EXCEPT for the fact that He has given commandments and laws that CAN help us to change our natures to become more like he is.

He cannot create us in perfected form. We are a product of biology and what we came with...and then we interact with our environment. Lots of moving parts. In a world of chaotic interactions. God cannot control everything that happens.

But He can allow for what happens and correct for it.

Atonement of Jesus Christ.

Regards,
MG

You seem to be conflating “can’t” with “won’t” and in doing so you render your God as something other than an actual God.

So was your Lord and Saviour not naturally all good when he was on the earth? A simple yes or no is all that’s required.