Are there still liberal Mormons?

[ceeboo]

In addition, the number of times that you use the laughing emoji to laugh at someone - mock someone - insinuate your heightened intellect over those beneath you - and/or intend to demean someone, is off the charts.

In case you didn't know, the laughing emoji can be used, if chosen, to share a laugh with someone, rather than to use it as a weapon for your personal and individual benefit.

I'd love to hear your response to the question I originally asked you, but you've put so much effort into your rants that I don't think it's going to happen. IHQ picked the conversation up, though, and has made some excellent points. It would be great to get back to that. Here's a bump:

This is an excellent point. It’s one persons version of an event that he got 3 and 8 other people to agree happened. And those people were all close family and friends. That’s how affinity fraud works.

Are you really that flustered? To think you are having an exchange with MG?

Being confronted with truth sometimes does that. Please, Marcus, take a few minutes to collect yourself.

[Marcus]

I'd love to hear your response to the question I originally asked you, but you've put so much effort into your rants that I don't think it's going to happen. IHQ picked the conversation up, though, and has made some excellent points. It would be great to get back to that. Here's a bump:

Are you really that flustered? To think you are having an exchange with MG?

Please, take a few minutes to collect yourself.

Projection, now?! You are really giving yourself away.

Back to the topic:

I'd love to hear your response to the question I originally asked you, but you've put so much effort into your rants that I don't think it's going to happen. IHQ picked the conversation up, though, and has made some excellent points. It would be great to get back to that.

Eta: It occurs to me that, because of the crossover amongst several threads, you may have forgotten the original exchange with you that started you calling me a moron so many times:

...I believe God has the right to do whatever he wants to do. God is not beholden to us at all - He doesn't owe us anything. It's his creation and he has the right, as Creator, to do whatever he wants...

But you are willing to let humans, writing a book, tell you what they think god said. Why do you trust these humans? Because they told you they were speaking for god? Kind of like how Joseph Smith wrote a book that he said was from god, and in the book he wrote, his name was given as a future prophet. Therefore, Mormons argue god meant Smith to be a prophet.

Circular reasoning, right? Like your reasoning about the Bible being the word of god?

You gave a sarcastic non-response, but my question stands if you'd like to try again.

[ceeboo]

Are you really that flustered? To think you are having an exchange with MG?

Please, take a few minutes to collect yourself.

Projection, now?! You are really giving yourself away.

Back to the topic:

I'd love to hear your response to the question I originally asked you, but you've put so much effort into your rants that I don't think it's going to happen. IHQ picked the conversation up, though, and has made some excellent points. It would be great to get back to that.

You remain very flustered and are now doubling down. At this point, I don't know how to help you so I will just leave it where it is.

Perhaps another board member can explain the obvious to you. (Hint: I am not MG)

[ceeboo]

Eta: It occurs to me that, because of the crossover amongst several threads, you may have forgotten the original exchange with you that started you calling me a moron so many times:

ETA? Yeah right!

It occurs to me that you are desperately scrambling and not being truthful. It also occurs to me that you went to an entirely separate thread, where you did actually ask me a question - that I answered - and are now pretending that this is what you were talking about in this thread.

In this thread - having nothing to do with the other thread, you thought I was MG and you asked me, more than once, to answer this question (pasted below) -

I'd love to hear your response to the question I originally asked you, but you've put so much effort into your rants that I don't think it's going to happen. IHQ picked the conversation up, though, and has made some excellent points. It would be great to get back to that. Here's a bump:
I Have Questions wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:13 am
Marcus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:06 pm
Were their witness statements all independently given? Or was their witnessing grouped together and written by someone else, who tells us that they all signed off on it?
This is an excellent point. It’s one persons version of an event that he got 3 and 8 other people to agree happened. And those people were all close family and friends. That’s how affinity fraud works.

And when I tried to tell you that I was not MG (and that you were obviously flustered by being confronted with truth) you decided to make up this ridiculous lie about a question from another thread. - When you could have very easily said, my mistake, I thought you were MG - and I would have replied by saying no worries and things would have moved on. But, NO, Marcus does not have the ability to be honest and/or vulnerable - Marcus has more victories in sight, more trophies to add to an already very crowded trophy case.

And another example that lends further support to everything I suggested in a post to MG.

At this point, I have spent way too much of my time on this juvenile nonsense.

[Marcus]

Eta: It occurs to me that, because of the crossover amongst several threads, you may have forgotten the original exchange with you that started you calling me a moron so many times:

ETA? Yeah right!

It occurs to me that you are desperately scrambling and not being truthful. It also occurs to me that you went to an entirely separate thread, where you did actually ask me a question - that I answered - and are now pretending that this is what you were talking about in this thread.

In this thread - having nothing to do with the other thread, you thought I was MG and you asked me, more than once, to answer this question (pasted below) -

I'd love to hear your response to the question I originally asked you, but you've put so much effort into your rants that I don't think it's going to happen. IHQ picked the conversation up, though, and has made some excellent points. It would be great to get back to that. Here's a bump:
I Have Questions wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:13 am
Marcus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:06 pm
Were their witness statements all independently given? Or was their witnessing grouped together and written by someone else, who tells us that they all signed off on it?
This is an excellent point. It’s one persons version of an event that he got 3 and 8 other people to agree happened. And those people were all close family and friends. That’s how affinity fraud works.

And when I tried to tell you that I was not MG (and that you were obviously flustered by being confronted with truth) you decided to make up this ridiculous lie about a question from another thread. - When you could have very easily said, my mistake, I thought you were MG - and I would have replied by saying no worries and things would have moved on. But, NO, Marcus does not have the ability to be honest and/or vulnerable - Marcus has more victories in sight, more trophies to add to an already very crowded trophy case.

And another example that lends further support to everything I suggested in a post to MG.

At this point, I have spent way too much of my time on this juvenile nonsense.

Wow, you are really on a ranting roll today!

Try to follow along with the discussions then, if you're not getting it. The original question to you started the whole exchange, mg as usual inserting his few irrelevant go-tos (witnesses, creator god) into any discussion, as he always does.

But the moron calling was all you!

Also, caps color and bolding? Calm down. Although if you put even a tenth as much effort into legitimate responses as you do into ranting, you could really answer a lot of outstanding questions.

But, I know you are frustrated at the pushback you are getting in multiple threads, and it's obvious that taking it out on me is the easy way out for you. You're pretty transparent.

Are you interested in answering the question or not?

[ceeboo]

Wow, you are really on a ranting roll today!

Imagine that - Marcus is laughing at someone and trying to change the focus of the discussion.

[I Have Questions]

Truth: I did call a few people morons recently - One was someone who has addressed me a total of two times (I think it was two) on this board and both times he/she suggested that I was a racist. I replied that I thought he/she was a moron.

Truth?

Is this the exchange you’re talking about?

I will say you absolutely put 90 million to try and make your argument look stronger,

What morons say have very little weight in my world.

And, only an utter moron, like you, think that saying 90 million American citizens are blah blah blah is any different than saying 70 million American citizens are blah blah blah. - In either case, that's a LOT of Americans.

And, I don't care why you think I put 90 million (as if an utter moron like you actually practices this thing called thinking) - I already told you why.

you also as I pointed out, went from saying 80-90 million to saying 90 million in less than 12 hours in the same thread. There is no logical reason for you to inflate the number other than exaggeration and trying to better support your position.

Other than writing moronic posts like this, how much of your time do you spend finding racists in the world?

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=159155&start=40

Can you point me in the direction of where someone suggested you were a racist? All I could find was you doing this type of thing…

Ceeb doesn't think the 65M that voted for Hillary (+3M, but yes Trump did win since it is the electoral college and not popular vote that decides the winner of the presidential election), or the 81M for Biden (+7M) really count. He knows it is constitutional that some people only count 3/5ths.

Look - The board superhero that has racism detection built into his cape has again detected a racist.

What a freaking total moron!

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for what it's worth I think Ceeboo and MG have a difficult time participating here in complete harmony on such a predominantly progressive board, and I appreciate how civil they are since they’re massively outnumbered.

I really enjoy the discussions here when everyone remains civil and threads don’t devolve into name calling or straw man attacks.

A lot of these topics are very personal and can easily cause misunderstanding and elevated emotional responses.

[I Have Questions]

for what it's worth I think Ceeboo and MG have a difficult time participating here in complete harmony on such a predominantly progressive board, and I appreciate how civil they are since they’re massively outnumbered.

I really enjoy the discussions here when they remain civil and don’t devolve into name calling or straw man attacks.

A lot of these topics are very personal and can easily cause misunderstanding and elevated emotional responses.

Is there a definition of “civil” with which I’m unfamiliar?

[drumdude]

for what it's worth I think Ceeboo and MG have a difficult time participating here in complete harmony on such a predominantly progressive board, and I appreciate how civil they are since they’re massively outnumbered.

I really enjoy the discussions here when they remain civil and don’t devolve into name calling or straw man attacks.

A lot of these topics are very personal and can easily cause misunderstanding and elevated emotional responses.

Is there a definition of “civil” with which I’m unfamiliar?

The opposite of Atlantic Mike and Binger, for example.

I think you can find cases where we’ve all made mistakes.